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10/14/2008 09:27:17 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: Hi Amina
10/14/2008 09:27:21 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: How's it going?
10/14/2008 09:28:10 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: Hi Jen
10/14/2008 09:28:28 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: going alright - are you still having problems compiling
10/14/2008 09:28:54 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: I have a feeling its your classpath
10/14/2008 09:28:59 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: no, I actually just commented out the problem lines, but I have rebuilt the jars from scratch now and am trying to find the lines again to uncomment
10/14/2008 09:29:02 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: should be all fixed.
10/14/2008 09:29:14 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: You're right. :-)
10/14/2008 09:29:19 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: classpath strikes again
10/14/2008 09:29:53 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: it's because obo and bbop get in the list of libraries.
10/14/2008 09:30:10 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: I#m still working on the tree viewer but I have some really weird bugs
10/14/2008 09:30:24 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: it's taking a long time to track them down as they are very inconsistent and abstract
10/14/2008 09:30:56 AM from Chris Mungall to All Participants: hi
10/14/2008 09:31:02 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: Hi Chris.
10/14/2008 09:31:05 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: hi Chris
10/14/2008 09:31:09 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: thanks for the clue on the code thing
10/14/2008 09:31:37 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: Peter D'eustacio wrote to say he likes our sometimes_part_of plan
10/14/2008 09:31:49 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: He says Reactome will be all for helping with that.
10/14/2008 09:32:13 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: yeah if you don't update bbop and obo projects or have the updated jars you run into that problem
10/14/2008 09:32:55 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: Yes I must figure out how they get in the library list and stop them.
10/14/2008 09:33:43 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: Did you see my mail about the icons Amina? I think it is just when OBO-Edit is set on 12 point font that they are not so good. on 14 point they are fine.
10/14/2008 09:34:07 AM from Harold to All Participants: Hi everyone
10/14/2008 09:34:17 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: Hi Harold.
10/14/2008 09:34:21 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: yeah I did - I think I'll change the icon size though
10/14/2008 09:34:28 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: Okay, good idea.
10/14/2008 09:34:37 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: thanks for that.
10/14/2008 09:34:37 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: that should be independent of OE then and not look fuzzy
10/14/2008 09:34:43 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: Hi Harold
10/14/2008 09:34:47 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: Yes that would be great
10/14/2008 09:35:35 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: We may not have Midori today, as she is on holiday.
10/14/2008 09:36:05 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: Shall we start?
10/14/2008 09:36:30 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: Yes, Karen C. wont be joining in too
10/14/2008 09:36:32 AM from Harold to All Participants: I can only stay for a few minutes myself
10/14/2008 09:36:48 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: sure - anything you wanted to discuss Harold
10/14/2008 09:37:16 AM from Harold to All Participants: Has Jen said something about relabling a button in the graphviz panel?
10/14/2008 09:37:22 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: nope
10/14/2008 09:37:25 AM from Harold to All Participants: labeling
10/14/2008 09:37:35 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: fire away
10/14/2008 09:37:53 AM from Harold to All Participants: I was use to the "save" button from the old graphiviz in 1.0 as saving the config
10/14/2008 09:38:04 AM from Harold to All Participants: But now it's actually a save the figure
10/14/2008 09:38:23 AM from Harold to All Participants: So it might be useful to have it "save as" so its clear what it is
10/14/2008 09:38:34 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: or save image or something?
10/14/2008 09:38:45 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: save as doesn't really suggest to me what it is saving.
10/14/2008 09:38:56 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: 'save graph?'
10/14/2008 09:39:03 AM from Harold to All Participants: It saves as .dot (not an image), or jpg, gif, etc.
10/14/2008 09:39:08 AM from Harold to All Participants: Save graph would be great
10/14/2008 09:39:14 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: oh good.
10/14/2008 09:39:18 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: anybody object to that?
10/14/2008 09:39:28 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: sounds good to me
10/14/2008 09:39:45 AM from melissaH to All Participants: soods good to me too
10/14/2008 09:39:50 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: Okay I'll do that.
10/14/2008 09:40:07 AM from Harold to All Participants: that's all for me at the moment
10/14/2008 09:40:43 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: I wondered if we might talk about what we're going to say or do at the consortium meeting?
10/14/2008 09:40:52 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: ok great - I'll do a quick bug tracker update
10/14/2008 09:41:18 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: Yeah we should discuss that Jen
10/14/2008 09:41:32 AM from Harold to All Participants: any estimates of a release date might be good if we can
10/14/2008 09:41:36 AM from Chris Mungall to All Participants: I will show a screenshot or two in my XP report section
10/14/2008 09:41:40 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: I'm planning on fixing all priority > 5 bugs before the meeting
10/14/2008 09:41:53 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: great!
10/14/2008 09:42:00 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: and making a release before we leave for montreal
10/14/2008 09:42:11 AM from Chris Mungall to All Participants: I think most people will be interested in the release date estimate
10/14/2008 09:42:22 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: what date will we suggest?
10/14/2008 09:42:47 AM from Chris Mungall to All Participants: We can make the point that for many people the betas are stable enough. When go to ontology meetings I see everyone using OE2, no one using 1 any more
10/14/2008 09:43:13 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: Yes that's a big step forward.
10/14/2008 09:43:51 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: We could ask people to start using OBO-Edit 2 for testing maybe, for those who could manage this?
10/14/2008 09:43:55 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: Chris will we be required to give an estimate release date though?
10/14/2008 09:43:59 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: the more testing the better.
10/14/2008 09:44:06 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: Yes thats true
10/14/2008 09:44:17 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: Yes I think that will be the main question.
10/14/2008 09:44:26 AM from Harold to All Participants: need to run... bye
10/14/2008 09:44:31 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: bye
10/14/2008 09:44:34 AM from Chris Mungall to All Participants: bye
10/14/2008 09:44:38 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: but we can give a very safe one.
10/14/2008 09:44:39 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: I would like to say December - but I know theres a lot to be done
10/14/2008 09:44:48 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: I would like to say end of March.
10/14/2008 09:45:19 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: If we are early it is fine, but late is bad.
10/14/2008 09:45:41 AM from Chris Mungall to All Participants: We need to be able to use bug and FR tracker priorities to give an estimated release date
10/14/2008 09:45:44 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: We have a license for your kit profiling tool now too
10/14/2008 09:45:49 AM from Chris Mungall to All Participants: Jen, have you prioritised yours?
10/14/2008 09:46:00 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: no I haven't had a chance the last few weeks.
10/14/2008 09:46:07 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: shall I try to do that tomorrow then?
10/14/2008 09:46:13 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: there are quite a lot of them
10/14/2008 09:46:39 AM from Chris Mungall to All Participants: the point is to prioritise release showstoppers > 5 (I believe this was the plan, no?)
10/14/2008 09:46:50 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: yes thats right
10/14/2008 09:46:50 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: is the rule still that >5 means that they will be done before release?
10/14/2008 09:46:55 AM from Chris Mungall to All Participants: without this it's pure guesswork estimating a release date
10/14/2008 09:46:59 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: ok
10/14/2008 09:47:04 AM from Chris Mungall to All Participants: I believe so
10/14/2008 09:47:22 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: I'll try to get that done then. We also need to factor in further testing and documentation
10/14/2008 09:47:32 AM from Chris Mungall to All Participants: The OEWG should take charge of prioritising others' requests too
10/14/2008 09:47:44 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: that could take time
10/14/2008 09:47:50 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: we could do it after the meeting through.
10/14/2008 09:48:45 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: There are about 2-3 6 priority bugs
10/14/2008 09:49:00 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: that's good then
10/14/2008 09:49:02 AM from Chris Mungall to All Participants: are there >5 feature reqs too?
10/14/2008 09:49:20 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: stability is also a major issue which needs to be addressed after the meeting
10/14/2008 09:49:27 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: feature requests are also important as some represent features required to make existing tools workable.
10/14/2008 09:49:34 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: yes I believe 2 feature req > 5
10/14/2008 09:49:38 AM from Chris Mungall to All Participants: we have no idea if 2-3 is good because it seems the current numbers are an underestimate if people haven't been prioritising..
10/14/2008 09:49:39 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: I'll check
10/14/2008 09:50:04 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: There are some features that I am still turning off to use oboedit so I have not tested them at all.
10/14/2008 09:50:12 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: for example the verification checker and reasoner/
10/14/2008 09:50:18 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: is anyone else testing those?
10/14/2008 09:50:42 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: They were slowing things down so I turned them off.
10/14/2008 09:51:00 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: I haven't looked at the verification checker at all
10/14/2008 09:51:07 AM from Chris Mungall to All Participants: I use the reasoner daily. However, this only has to be as good as it is in OE1, which is a low bar.
10/14/2008 09:51:17 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: true
10/14/2008 09:51:23 AM from Chris Mungall to All Participants: Why do you turn off the verification plugin?
10/14/2008 09:51:34 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: we could try turning on the verification checker and see how it affects speed.
10/14/2008 09:52:01 AM from Chris Mungall to All Participants: It depends how you have it configured
10/14/2008 09:52:21 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2116808&group_id=36855&atid=418260
10/14/2008 09:52:36 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: is was the commit and text edit checks and the show warning checks.
10/14/2008 09:52:38 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1633306&group_id=36855&atid=418260
10/14/2008 09:52:58 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: they were slowing things down a lot. may not be now though.
10/14/2008 09:53:06 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: I can get these features done before the meeting too - they're the only ones > 5 priority
10/14/2008 09:54:24 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: Although I'm sure theres a way to do the second one with renderers
10/14/2008 09:55:18 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: the remove redundant relations with a link filter - I'll look more into it
10/14/2008 09:56:22 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: Jen OE2 in svn shouldn't bring up the uncommited text edits warning when not required
10/14/2008 09:56:52 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: sorry, what d'y mean?
10/14/2008 09:57:03 AM from Chris Mungall to All Participants: I am going to de-prioritise "'Remove all redundant relations' option"
10/14/2008 09:57:34 AM from Chris Mungall to All Participants: the functionality DavidOS needs is there. The additional features would be nice but not high priority. Objections?
10/14/2008 09:57:55 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: oh wait - this was midori's bug - the warning pop-up when no changes have taken place
10/14/2008 09:57:59 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: Should I mention here some bugs that I think are important?
10/14/2008 09:58:07 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: oh that would be it.
10/14/2008 09:58:20 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: ok Chris - I'll post a comment
10/14/2008 09:58:36 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: I think that fixing obomerge is important and it would be good to fix the thing that makes rogue menus pop up on clickiing terms in OTE. I can demo for you at the meeting.
10/14/2008 09:59:41 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: fixing obomerge to get the replaced by and consider tags for the obsolete terms?
10/14/2008 09:59:48 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: is that the problem
10/14/2008 09:59:50 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: Yes that's right
10/14/2008 10:00:19 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: I looked into that a while back and was confused
10/14/2008 10:00:32 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: Yes I know the feeling
10/14/2008 10:00:40 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: I'll being that up with chris this week
10/14/2008 10:00:41 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: I can talk you through all I know about it if it would help.
10/14/2008 10:00:44 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: bring*
10/14/2008 10:00:47 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: :-)
10/14/2008 10:01:12 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: I have identified the problem there - I can tell you about it on skype Jen
10/14/2008 10:01:20 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: ok
10/14/2008 10:01:22 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: thanks
10/14/2008 10:01:31 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: the obomerge one?
10/14/2008 10:01:42 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: Since you worked on the GUI you might know something I'm overlooking
10/14/2008 10:01:43 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: yes
10/14/2008 10:02:09 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: okay, yes, I do a lot of merging too and hand fixing of the file, so I can help with clues at least.
10/14/2008 10:03:25 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: ok - its reading the tags for the obsolete terms in both files but in the merged ontology leaves out the tage from one file
10/14/2008 10:03:42 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: yes that sounds like it.
10/14/2008 10:04:05 AM from Chris Mungall to All Participants: is it an obof1.0 / 1.2 thing?
10/14/2008 10:04:19 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: I've gone back and forth many times with it and can specify which file to pick tags from - but it wont merge both - it gets mixed up with obsoletes somehow
10/14/2008 10:04:33 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: I don't think we had those tags before.
10/14/2008 10:04:38 AM from Chris Mungall to All Participants: make sure it is both reading and writing obof1.2
10/14/2008 10:04:54 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: that could be it chris - I'll check
10/14/2008 10:06:09 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: how could it be reading the wrong format if there is only one format on offer? It is deifnatley producing the right format
10/14/2008 10:06:16 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: definitely
10/14/2008 10:06:25 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: I had not looked into the feature requests in a while - both of those have a work around
10/14/2008 10:06:49 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: Yes, true. It's quite a laborious workaround though, so a fix would be great.
10/14/2008 10:07:53 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: Yeah for sure
10/14/2008 10:08:31 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: I'm still working on fixing the tree viewer. It's a bit buggy.
10/14/2008 10:08:44 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: We'll try and schedule atleast a couple of hours on of the meeting days for the WG to meet
10/14/2008 10:08:59 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: one of the meeting days that is
10/14/2008 10:09:11 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: we can always srategically sit together at dinner if all else fails.
10/14/2008 10:09:38 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: Yeah :)
10/14/2008 10:09:41 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: :-)
10/14/2008 10:09:58 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: these meeting agendas can get quite full.
10/14/2008 10:10:33 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: Yeah looks like it - I've heard a lot goes on
10/14/2008 10:10:54 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: when you come up with a proposed release date can you be sure to include enough testing and documenting time?
10/14/2008 10:11:01 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: we have a lot of testing still to do.
10/14/2008 10:11:24 AM from Chris Mungall to All Participants: yes
10/14/2008 10:11:27 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: Chris would you like to do the demo now - or should we do it tomorrow and record a video
10/14/2008 10:11:45 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: that way we can put that up on the OE website too for future reference
10/14/2008 10:12:08 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: we can record now if you want
10/14/2008 10:12:15 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: I can record it on my computer.
10/14/2008 10:12:28 AM from Chris Mungall to All Participants: I can do it now but I think everyone in attendance should be familiar with the basic xp and reasoner functionality I would show
10/14/2008 10:12:42 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: oh okay
10/14/2008 10:12:46 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: oh webex has a lag with demos
10/14/2008 10:13:09 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: it's not so bad though is it?
10/14/2008 10:13:39 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: are you still planning to show a video at the consortium meeting?
10/14/2008 10:13:41 AM from Chris Mungall to All Participants: I guess a few bugs have been fixed since I last went through the demo
10/14/2008 10:13:45 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: I think we will be using this demo for the meeting
10/14/2008 10:13:58 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: if you use the graph editor can you turn off animation?
10/14/2008 10:14:08 AM from melissaH to All Participants: ideally, we could record a demo with a voice over- that would be better than just webex, especially for complicated things...
10/14/2008 10:14:30 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: Jen yes it would be easier to pack in a lot in the videos and we can do live demos for specific items
10/14/2008 10:14:35 AM from melissaH to All Participants: the webex demos for me are jerky
10/14/2008 10:14:43 AM from Chris Mungall to All Participants: ok
10/14/2008 10:14:53 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: Jen the animation is so cool though!
10/14/2008 10:15:07 AM from Chris Mungall to All Participants: does dramamine work?
10/14/2008 10:15:25 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: is that a question for me?
10/14/2008 10:15:33 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: I took dramamine before I went whale watching
10/14/2008 10:15:34 AM from Chris Mungall to All Participants: not a serious question :-)
10/14/2008 10:15:39 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: oh good.
10/14/2008 10:15:44 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: yeah thats a motion sickness drug Jen
10/14/2008 10:15:49 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: getting a lot of wise-cracks recently.
10/14/2008 10:16:08 AM from melissaH to All Participants: heehee
10/14/2008 10:16:29 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: I looked into doing videos with voice over and apparently the voice over part is really timeconsuming, maybe with text commentary it would be easier
10/14/2008 10:16:40 AM from melissaH to All Participants: that would be fine too.
10/14/2008 10:16:47 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: great
10/14/2008 10:17:26 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: that sounds good too
10/14/2008 10:17:28 AM from melissaH to All Participants: and no dramamine needed
10/14/2008 10:18:17 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: Any more items for today?
10/14/2008 10:18:24 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: nope
10/14/2008 10:18:33 AM from Chris Mungall to All Participants: seriously though - perhaps we could record two videos. the animation is really useful for illustarting how changes in the base ontology can percolate through to GO when the reasoner is use
10/14/2008 10:19:00 AM from Chris Mungall to All Participants: This would be more for people who were still unfamiliar with the reasoner
10/14/2008 10:19:08 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: Chris, I was waiting to hear back from davina to get iCapture
10/14/2008 10:19:23 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: I'll have it setup tomorrow so we can record the videos
10/14/2008 10:19:24 AM from melissaH to All Participants: I don't mind the animation except for on webex- I agree its helpful
10/14/2008 10:19:39 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: for the consortium meeting it would be good to have no animation, but for demos then two versions would be fine.
10/14/2008 10:19:59 AM from Nomi Harris to All Participants: Hey, I have a tip for Mac users for capturing screenshots:
10/14/2008 10:20:40 AM from Nomi Harris to All Participants: Did you know you can do shift-command-4 and then select a region of the screen, and it is automatically saved as a PNG on your desktop?
10/14/2008 10:20:53 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: Yes it's cool isn't it?
10/14/2008 10:21:05 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: If you press space then click you get a png of just the window you clicked.
10/14/2008 10:21:05 AM from Nomi Harris to All Participants: Yes, I only learned that recently.
10/14/2008 10:21:13 AM from Chris Mungall to All Participants: nice
10/14/2008 10:21:15 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: very useful.
10/14/2008 10:21:27 AM from Nomi Harris to All Participants: Space then click?
10/14/2008 10:21:44 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: command shift 4 then space then click
10/14/2008 10:21:47 AM from Nomi Harris to All Participants: Oh, right.
10/14/2008 10:21:54 AM from Nomi Harris to All Participants: Handy!
10/14/2008 10:21:57 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: brilliant for teaching.
10/14/2008 10:22:28 AM from Nomi Harris to All Participants: I wish it would pop up a "save as" box so I wouldn't have to go and rename it right away before I forget what it is.
10/14/2008 10:22:34 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: true
10/14/2008 10:23:10 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: anything else?
10/14/2008 10:23:49 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: Should we end folks..
10/14/2008 10:23:52 AM from Nomi Harris to All Participants: I assume we won't be having this WebEx next Tues since most people will be in Montreal?
10/14/2008 10:24:04 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: yep. I'll try to go through my bug reports tomorrow.
10/14/2008 10:24:09 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: true
10/14/2008 10:24:11 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: Yes I was going to mention that - I'll send out an email
10/14/2008 10:24:31 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: I may not be around the following tuesday as I arrive back monday.
10/14/2008 10:24:38 AM from Nomi Harris to All Participants: I will be out of town next Tues-Wed
10/14/2008 10:24:49 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: okay, good to know.
10/14/2008 10:25:05 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: Jen will you be spending some time sightseeing in montreal?
10/14/2008 10:25:25 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: yes the friday to sunday Emily and I will be in Montreal. Will you?
10/14/2008 10:25:59 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: I'm planning on going to new york - I just got a new nephew - will be visiting him
10/14/2008 10:26:05 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: great :-)
10/14/2008 10:26:31 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: Seth was planning a trip to go see the fluorescent night sky - we might do that on wednesday
10/14/2008 10:26:41 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: sounds cool
10/14/2008 10:26:54 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: I'll keep you posted
10/14/2008 10:26:55 AM from Nomi Harris to All Participants: Fluorescent?
10/14/2008 10:27:05 AM from Nomi Harris to All Participants: Isn't Montreal too far south for the aurora?
10/14/2008 10:27:20 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: yeah i think its the aurora he was talking about
10/14/2008 10:27:47 AM from Nomi Harris to All Participants: Don't you have to go a lot farther north to see that?
10/14/2008 10:27:49 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: His dads an astrophysicist and told him about some place close to montreal
10/14/2008 10:28:09 AM from Nomi Harris to All Participants: Huh. Well, I hope you see it, it sounds very cool.
10/14/2008 10:28:19 AM from Nomi Harris to All Participants: Have fun in Montreal, everyone, and I'm sorry I won't be there.
10/14/2008 10:28:22 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: I think hes still looking into it - I signed up since it sounded cool and we can take turns driving
10/14/2008 10:28:36 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: We'll miss you!
10/14/2008 10:29:12 AM from melissaH to All Participants: you can see the aurora sometimes much farther south- I once saw it in Iowa
10/14/2008 10:29:24 AM from melissaH to All Participants: have a good time!
10/14/2008 10:29:26 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: oh really - I didnt know what
10/14/2008 10:29:29 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: that*
10/14/2008 10:29:41 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: I might potter off and find food now.
10/14/2008 10:29:47 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: see you next week.
10/14/2008 10:29:54 AM from Amina Abdulla to All Participants: bye everyone
10/14/2008 10:29:57 AM from Jen Deegan to All Participants: bye!
10/14/2008 10:30:01 AM from Nomi Harris to All Participants: Bye!
10/14/2008 10:30:10 AM from Chris Mungall to All Participants: bye