OE Webex 16Jul07

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07/16/2007    17:12:23 PM    from Midori Harris to All Participants:
<phew> made it!
07/16/2007    17:13:17 PM    from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
	Yeah. Sorry about the late notice. I had a catastrophic diaper 
failure I was dealing with.

07/16/2007    17:13:25 PM    from Midori Harris to All Participants:
ew.
07/16/2007    17:13:30 PM    from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
	The baby's diaper. My diaper is fine.

07/16/2007    17:13:34 PM    from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
	Anyway.

07/16/2007    17:13:35 PM    from Midori Harris to All Participants:
Is anyone else coming?
07/16/2007    17:14:12 PM    from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
	I don't know. Am I right that: The plan was for people to test 
drive parts of OBO-Edit that they didn't understand, and ask questions?

07/16/2007    17:14:46 PM    from Midori Harris to All Participants:
Maybe ... at any rate, I had essentially the same impression.
07/16/2007    17:15:07 PM    from Midori Harris to All Participants:
I'm just sending the URL where I finally tracked down the participant 
entry for this meeting.
07/16/2007    17:15:22 PM    from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
	Didn't I forward an email to the group?

07/16/2007    17:16:25 PM    from Midori Harris to All Participants:
er, yes, but it took me to a page that wanted a host username & password 
-- it looked like a reminder to the host (e.i. you) rather than the 
invite for everyone else.
07/16/2007    17:16:38 PM    from Midori Harris to All Participants:
er, that should say 'i.e., you' ...
07/16/2007    17:16:51 PM    from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
	Opps.

07/16/2007    17:16:59 PM    from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
	er, that should say 'Oops' ...

07/16/2007    17:17:17 PM    from Midori Harris to All Participants:
both doing real well here ...
07/16/2007    17:18:38 PM    from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
	Was there anything in particular you wanted to work with?

07/16/2007    17:18:44 PM    from Midori Harris to All Participants:
Anyhoo, just frantically running the beta8 installer; just remembered 
that Webex can't share  the platform-independent ver, at least from a 
mac.
07/16/2007    17:19:02 PM    from Midori Harris to All Participants:
Then I'll see if I get the same blank-screen oddness that I saw at home 
the other day.
07/16/2007    17:20:10 PM    from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
	I've had that problem too, and it's very odd.

07/16/2007    17:20:34 PM    from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
	I think that it's coming out of an error in the docking 
framework that it's not reporting to the outside world.

07/16/2007    17:20:57 PM    from Midori Harris to All Participants:
OK, installer has finished. One thing I've noticed already: no desktop 
icon, even tho I left it at the default "do create one" setting. Noticed 
this with beta8 and one other (7 probably) at home.
07/16/2007    17:21:06 PM    from Midori Harris to All Participants:
Glad the blankness isn't just me.
07/16/2007    17:21:07 PM    from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
	This is Mac OS?

07/16/2007    17:21:18 PM    from Midori Harris to All Participants:
yup, 10.4.10
07/16/2007    17:21:34 PM    from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
	When I've gotten the blank screen, I can fix it by restarting 
OBO-Edit, and then rebuilding my screen with the Show -> <whatever 
component> menus.

07/16/2007    17:22:02 PM    from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
	I'll make sure this is fixed before an official release. But 
since there's no feedback of any kind from the toolkit, it's going to 
take a while.

07/16/2007    17:22:13 PM    from Midori Harris to All Participants:
I recall that not working for me; I had to throw away the .oboeditbeta 
contents :(
07/16/2007    17:22:29 PM    from Midori Harris to All Participants:
Then it was OK without having to rebuild manually.
07/16/2007    17:23:05 PM    from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
	If that happens again, send me...

07/16/2007    17:23:31 PM    from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
	The contents of your .oboedit/perspectives directory.

07/16/2007    17:23:41 PM    from Midori Harris to All Participants:
will do
07/16/2007    17:23:49 PM    from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
	It would be useful to get some broken files to work with.

07/16/2007    17:24:27 PM    from Midori Harris to All Participants:
In other news, OBO-Edit has started up, and the config manager thinks it 
has 512M or memory.
07/16/2007    17:24:42 PM    from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
	Is that the setting you gave in the installer?

07/16/2007    17:25:01 PM    from Midori Harris to All Participants:
This is odd because the installer guessed 1536M (of ~3G).
07/16/2007    17:25:07 PM    from Midori Harris to All Participants:
so, no.
07/16/2007    17:25:34 PM    from Midori Harris to All Participants:
I left the installer to use its 1536M guess.
07/16/2007    17:25:52 PM    from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
	Try resetting the value and restarting. I just realized that the 
technique I'm using for setting the memory from the installer may have a 
problem on Mac OS.

07/16/2007    17:26:40 PM    from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
	Mac OS (unlike every other platform) has a special way of 
sending memory settings to Java applications. I think that the memory 
settings are correct, but the file that tells OBO-Edit what to display 
may not be written correctly on Mac OS.

07/16/2007    17:26:42 PM    from Midori Harris to All Participants:
Yes, it's remembered a change to 1024M.
07/16/2007    17:26:59 PM    from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
	I think my theory is right then. <sigh> There's another bug to 
deal with.

07/16/2007    17:27:06 PM    from Midori Harris to All Participants:
Now I shall stick my neck out and try to change the font!
07/16/2007    17:27:20 PM    from Midori Harris to All Participants:
Jen - want transcript-so-far?
07/16/2007    17:27:33 PM    from Jennifer Deegan to All Participants:
	yes please