OE Webex 28Oct08

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10/28/2008 09:30:15 AM from melissaH: hi nomi, amina!
10/28/2008 09:30:19 AM from Amina Abdulla: Hi Melissa
10/28/2008 09:30:54 AM from Nomi Harris: Hi
10/28/2008 09:31:00 AM from Nomi Harris: There were two different meeting URLs sent out.
10/28/2008 09:31:45 AM from Amina Abdulla: They should both link to the same meeting though
10/28/2008 09:31:50 AM from Nomi Harris: Ok
10/28/2008 09:31:58 AM from melissaH: hmmm
10/28/2008 09:32:12 AM from Amina Abdulla: Ones from webex and the other one is a fwd
10/28/2008 09:32:39 AM from Amina Abdulla: So we had the GO meeting last week - was nice to meet everyone
10/28/2008 09:32:49 AM from Nomi Harris: I heard it went well.
10/28/2008 09:33:01 AM from Tanya: it was great to meet you too!
10/28/2008 09:33:05 AM from melissaH: oh yeah, and how did the OE stuff go without chris?
10/28/2008 09:33:20 AM from Amina Abdulla: Oh we definately missed Chris
10/28/2008 09:33:40 AM from Nomi Harris: Poor Chris.
10/28/2008 09:34:03 AM from Amina Abdulla: Yeah I think hes feeling better now
10/28/2008 09:34:12 AM from melissaH: well good for you! (and not so good for chris:-()
10/28/2008 09:35:17 AM from Tanya: what's on the agenda for today?
10/28/2008 09:35:44 AM from Amina Abdulla: I think the demo section would've been great if Chris was around - for OBO-Edit that is
10/28/2008 09:35:50 AM from Chris Mungall: yes I'm feeling better thanks!
10/28/2008 09:35:55 AM from Amina Abdulla: Hi Chris
10/28/2008 09:35:59 AM from Chris Mungall: Hi!
10/28/2008 09:36:09 AM from melissaH: glad you are feeling better!
10/28/2008 09:36:09 AM from Amina Abdulla: good to know your feeling better
10/28/2008 09:36:29 AM from Amina Abdulla: I don't know if Midori and Jen will be joining in
10/28/2008 09:36:57 AM from Amina Abdulla: The agenda was a quick wrap up of the issues we discussed at the meeting
10/28/2008 09:37:24 AM from Amina Abdulla: I got to see the unique bugs some of the users have
10/28/2008 09:37:33 AM from Amina Abdulla: and that are hard to replicate
10/28/2008 09:38:06 AM from Nomi Harris: Sounds like a good time.
10/28/2008 09:38:09 AM from Amina Abdulla: so that was good - and there are some bugs David OS reported in the latest release
10/28/2008 09:39:13 AM from Nomi Harris: that weren't present in previous releases?
10/28/2008 09:39:14 AM from Amina Abdulla: Think we'll have a short meeting today
10/28/2008 09:39:37 AM from Amina Abdulla: well - the commit issue for xps is back
10/28/2008 09:39:56 AM from Amina Abdulla: it works fine for me though - so I asked david to send me a test case
10/28/2008 09:40:14 AM from Amina Abdulla: autocommit is flaky - manual commit works
10/28/2008 09:40:33 AM from Amina Abdulla: I tried it out with the editors - worked fine then too
10/28/2008 09:40:33 AM from Tanya: (Unrelated: Did you get your shirts at LBL?)
10/28/2008 09:41:08 AM from Amina Abdulla: Seth picked up some extra shirts for Chris and Nomi yeah
10/28/2008 09:41:17 AM from Amina Abdulla: I got mugs and the calendar
10/28/2008 09:41:27 AM from Tanya: excellent
10/28/2008 09:41:44 AM from Nomi Harris: I haven't seen any of these yet
10/28/2008 09:41:59 AM from Amina Abdulla: the bugs or the GO stuff Nomi?
10/28/2008 09:42:27 AM from Nomi Harris: Oh, I meant the shirts and mugs
10/28/2008 09:43:04 AM from Tanya: lol
10/28/2008 09:44:20 AM from Amina Abdulla: So I think one of the big surprises of the meeting was the OE sourceforge download graph for the last year
10/28/2008 09:44:56 AM from Amina Abdulla: There could be potentially more users out there - guessing from the numbers
10/28/2008 09:45:17 AM from Nomi Harris: Can I see the graph?
10/28/2008 09:45:47 AM from Amina Abdulla: Sure Nomi - I'll email it to you
10/28/2008 09:46:16 AM from Amina Abdulla: think it'll be faster to bring it up on sourceforge
10/28/2008 09:47:21 AM from Amina Abdulla: http://sourceforge.net/project/stats/detail.php?group_id=36855&ugn=geneontology&type=prdownload&mode=12months&package_id=148487
10/28/2008 09:49:08 AM from Nomi Harris: Wow, that's a lot of downloads!
10/28/2008 09:49:24 AM from Amina Abdulla: yeah Suzi was really surprised too
10/28/2008 09:49:38 AM from Amina Abdulla: and a lot of users run it off of svn
10/28/2008 09:50:16 AM from Tanya: who are these people?
10/28/2008 09:50:17 AM from Amina Abdulla: I rarely download to test since we do the testing before the release
10/28/2008 09:50:25 AM from Tanya: we should get them to participate in our discussions
10/28/2008 09:50:27 AM from Amina Abdulla: Good question Tanya
10/28/2008 09:50:41 AM from Amina Abdulla: we need more OE awareness
10/28/2008 09:50:51 AM from Tanya: I think Michael was somewhat disturbed that there were so many people downloading the beta versions
10/28/2008 09:50:59 AM from Tanya: (or maybe I misinterpreted his reaction)
10/28/2008 09:51:15 AM from Chris Mungall: OE2 is popular. I've frequently been at meetings where after someone demos their ontology in OE2 the whole room goes wow and downloads it
10/28/2008 09:51:21 AM from Tanya: aha
10/28/2008 09:51:34 AM from Amina Abdulla: well the last few beta releases have been quiet stable
10/28/2008 09:51:54 AM from Tanya: all the more reason for OE2 to be 'legitimized':)
10/28/2008 09:56:46 AM from Amina Abdulla: The 2.0 release was discussed too
10/28/2008 09:57:35 AM from Amina Abdulla: Chris I can tell you more about it once your back
10/28/2008 09:58:10 AM from Amina Abdulla: Does anyone have any items they would like to discuss
10/28/2008 09:58:31 AM from Amina Abdulla: I still have to assess all my bug and feature requests from the meeting last week
10/28/2008 09:58:54 AM from melissaH: I am wondering about one request- bringing back the synonym category chooser
10/28/2008 09:59:21 AM from melissaH: its preventing us from switching to OE2
10/28/2008 10:00:22 AM from Amina Abdulla: Melissa is that a feature request?
10/28/2008 10:01:02 AM from Amina Abdulla: I dont see it under your user id
10/28/2008 10:01:21 AM from melissaH: hmm lemme look
10/28/2008 10:02:46 AM from melissaH: [ 2020766 ] no way to add synonym type?
10/28/2008 10:02:49 AM from melissaH: its a bug
10/28/2008 10:03:03 AM from Amina Abdulla: oh right - got it
10/28/2008 10:04:19 AM from Amina Abdulla: I'll work on that one - would be great to have more users to try the betas
10/28/2008 10:04:37 AM from melissaH: yes, I feel neglectful in my testing, this will help!
10/28/2008 10:05:13 AM from Amina Abdulla: The UK folks are probably still on vacation time
10/28/2008 10:06:05 AM from Amina Abdulla: should we end our webex session now?
10/28/2008 10:06:42 AM from Amina Abdulla: sorry about the slow meeting everyone - I promise we'll have exciting fixes to talk about next time
10/28/2008 10:06:57 AM from Harold: sorry I'm late: another meeting ran over
10/28/2008 10:07:00 AM from Amina Abdulla: Hi Harold - I didn't notice you joined
10/28/2008 10:07:13 AM from Nomi Harris: You snuck in so quietly.
10/28/2008 10:07:21 AM from Harold: yah
10/28/2008 10:07:43 AM from melissaH: no worries, glad you got some good feedback at the GO meeting
10/28/2008 10:07:44 AM from Amina Abdulla: Harold had an interesting sugegstion - would you like to everyone Harold
10/28/2008 10:08:03 AM from Harold: was this the one on the error summary?
10/28/2008 10:08:04 AM from Amina Abdulla: about the verification checks
10/28/2008 10:08:23 AM from Harold: Basically, what I would only like to see during my editing and save
10/28/2008 10:08:53 AM from Harold: is a check and display of anything I did during the session
10/28/2008 10:08:54 AM from Amina Abdulla: yeah - It sounds useful - there should be a way to distinguish between the errors in the content you just worked on
10/28/2008 10:09:08 AM from Harold: I don't need to see all of the other things that OE flags
10/28/2008 10:09:38 AM from Harold: As it is I need to look over the whole list to make sure it's nothing I did
10/28/2008 10:09:48 AM from Amina Abdulla: Right
10/28/2008 10:10:12 AM from Amina Abdulla: Do you think you can post a feature request Harold?
10/28/2008 10:10:25 AM from Harold: Ok;
10/28/2008 10:10:30 AM from melissaH: thats a great feature request.
10/28/2008 10:10:39 AM from Amina Abdulla: Thanks
10/28/2008 10:10:41 AM from Nomi Harris: That would be great, but I suspect it would be non-trivial to implement.
10/28/2008 10:10:53 AM from Harold: I was afraid of that
10/28/2008 10:11:16 AM from Nomi Harris: The code that does the verification checks doesn't know what's new and what's old.
10/28/2008 10:11:52 AM from Chris Mungall: But we at least track everything that's done in a session
10/28/2008 10:11:58 AM from Amina Abdulla: I wasn't sure if we could retrive that information from the previous session
10/28/2008 10:12:21 AM from Tanya: Isn't this what's provided by the History plugin?
10/28/2008 10:12:36 AM from Tanya: (or am I dating myself with something that no longer exists?)
10/28/2008 10:12:53 AM from Harold: Of course, there would still need to be a way to allow an "all " display if one wanted to
10/28/2008 10:13:19 AM from Amina Abdulla: Yeah thats what I was thinking of Harold
10/28/2008 10:13:30 AM from Amina Abdulla: I'l have to look into the implementation
10/28/2008 10:13:43 AM from Nomi Harris: It's doable, it would just involve some new logic in the verification (which might make it slower)
10/28/2008 10:14:37 AM from Jen Deegan: Hi, sorry, I guess the meeting in working in Daylight saving time.
10/28/2008 10:14:47 AM from Amina Abdulla: Hi Jen!
10/28/2008 10:14:52 AM from Jen Deegan: Hi:-)
10/28/2008 10:15:01 AM from Nomi Harris: Oh, yes, we're still in PDT--it's switching over later than usual this year.
10/28/2008 10:15:03 AM from Jen Deegan: The clocks just changed here.
10/28/2008 10:15:11 AM from Amina Abdulla: I thought you folks were still in vacation mode
10/28/2008 10:15:12 AM from Jen Deegan: Darn. etc.
10/28/2008 10:15:16 AM from Jen Deegan: :-)
10/28/2008 10:15:22 AM from Jen Deegan: No, just daft.
10/28/2008 10:15:26 AM from Harold: Did they change to hour glasses or sun-dials? 8-)
10/28/2008 10:15:35 AM from Jen Deegan: :-)
10/28/2008 10:15:41 AM from Jen Deegan: don't let me interrupt though.
10/28/2008 10:15:49 AM from Karen: Just wondering, if the programming is complicated, perhaps this would be better dealt with by not having this huge running set of errors in GO...
10/28/2008 10:16:12 AM from Nomi Harris: You mean, someone should fix GO?
10/28/2008 10:16:43 AM from Harold: yes, we talked about that a long time ago
10/28/2008 10:16:44 AM from Tanya: Horrors! There's something wrong with GO??? ;)
10/28/2008 10:16:47 AM from Jen Deegan: which fix had you in mind?
10/28/2008 10:17:10 AM from Harold: For example, I think it flags multiplle k's in Mapkk, etc
10/28/2008 10:17:13 AM from Chris Mungall: Seems sensible. Everyone in GO should use the same verification setup, and everyone should make sure the ontology complies
10/28/2008 10:17:31 AM from Jen Deegan: won't our spelling list solve that?
10/28/2008 10:17:57 AM from Jen Deegan: I committed the files but not yet the code to read in the files for repeated words, full stops in words etc.
10/28/2008 10:18:41 AM from Tanya: I think that will take care of a lot of the 'errors'
10/28/2008 10:18:52 AM from Harold: Hey, since it separates fatal and non-fatal, at least we might check whether it would display one or both?
10/28/2008 10:19:34 AM from Harold: 1465 non fatal currently
10/28/2008 10:19:41 AM from Harold:1475
10/28/2008 10:19:51 AM from Jen Deegan: I'll try to put that code in this week to do the other files
10/28/2008 10:19:59 AM from Jen Deegan: that should help a lot.
10/28/2008 10:21:22 AM from Karen: Once that's in Jen, it'll be easier to see if there's anything that should be fixed in GO or another type of thing we need to teach GO to ignore.
10/28/2008 10:21:42 AM from Jen Deegan: Yes, maybe we should revisit once it's done then.
10/28/2008 10:22:46 AM from Harold: eg, it thinks GO:0010699 cell-cell signaling involved in... is a bad thing because it uses cell twice in a row
10/28/2008 10:23:12 AM from Jen Deegan: once I have the repeated word list working that might be fixed.
10/28/2008 10:24:07 AM from Jen Deegan: Is this topic over? I have a question.
10/28/2008 10:24:18 AM from Amina Abdulla: go ahead Jen
10/28/2008 10:25:39 AM from Jen Deegan: I was thinking that it would really help Amina get to release stage if we could all be editing and committing striaght from OBO-Edit2. I think that more people would do that if they didn't have to load and save in OBO-Edit 1.101 before commit. However now that we have a non-public editors file we could be committing straight to that from OBO-Edit2 and just have one load save a day from OBO-Edit 1.101 before the public file is made
10/28/2008 10:26:11 AM from Tanya: "ust have one load save a day from OBO-Edit 1.101 before the public file is made"?
10/28/2008 10:26:16 AM from Tanya: manually?
10/28/2008 10:26:24 AM from Tanya: must be, right?
10/28/2008 10:26:30 AM from Jen Deegan: yes
10/28/2008 10:26:38 AM from Tanya: and it would have to be whoever commits last
10/28/2008 10:26:42 AM from Tanya: for that particular day
10/28/2008 10:26:42 AM from Jen Deegan: yes
10/28/2008 10:26:50 AM from Jen Deegan: or one person whose job it is.
10/28/2008 10:27:00 AM from Jen Deegan: we need to hear from Midori on this really, and she's not here.
10/28/2008 10:27:03 AM from Tanya: hmmm
10/28/2008 10:27:09 AM from Jen Deegan:
just a thought for you to mull over though.
10/28/2008 10:27:19 AM from Karen: Mike Cherry is adamant that we CANNOT commit to the repository using beta software, so until we get to the point that we're officially using OE2, the resave in OE1 is NOT optional. Personally, I don't find it a big hassle.
10/28/2008 10:27:23 AM from Jen Deegan: we need to be really testing so we are not holding the release back.
10/28/2008 10:27:27 AM from Tanya: hmmmmmm = mulling
10/28/2008 10:27:28 AM from Amina Abdulla: Yeah its a great idea Jen
10/28/2008 10:28:02 AM from Jen Deegan: I understand that Karen, but the point of the private editor file is so we can do things that must not go into the public domain.
10/28/2008 10:28:22 AM from Jen Deegan: being able to commit from 2 would really speed up the testing a lot I think.
10/28/2008 10:28:55 AM from Karen: I just don't think that resaving in OE1 is that big a deal and better safe than sorry to have a save from OE2 when Mike is really firm on that principle.
10/28/2008 10:28:58 AM from Amina Abdulla: I can see how using OE2 can bring up issues we might not come accross while testing
10/28/2008 10:29:03 AM from Jen Deegan: I think we really need to pull together to get the testing done so we can meet a good release deadline and let cross produsts start.
10/28/2008 10:29:08 AM from Chris Mungall: Karen, that's giving you a false sense of security anyway. It's hypothetically possible for a problem introduced in OE2 can be roundtripped via OE1
10/28/2008 10:29:30 AM from Chris Mungall: The best thing is to be vigilant and check commits using cvs diff
10/28/2008 10:29:40 AM from Karen: I do that anyway.
10/28/2008 10:29:45 AM from Jen Deegan: Perhaps we could talk with Mike about it on the next Managers' call?
10/28/2008 10:29:56 AM from Jen Deegan: If Midori likes the idea.
10/28/2008 10:30:23 AM from Chris Mungall: got to go..
10/28/2008 10:30:28 AM from Jen Deegan: bye.

10/28/2008 10:30:32 AM from Amina Abdulla: bye Chris
10/28/2008 10:30:40 AM from Nomi Harris: Bye
10/28/2008 10:31:05 AM from Jen Deegan: I suppose that's about the end is it?
10/28/2008 10:31:18 AM from Tanya: for this week
10/28/2008 10:31:22 AM from Jen Deegan: :-)
10/28/2008 10:31:28 AM from Tanya: Tune in next week for the next episode
10/28/2008 10:31:37 AM from Jen Deegan: Amina, would you have a minute for a chat on development?
10/28/2008 10:31:38 AM from David OS: Damn - you lot are still on daylight saving?
10/28/2008 10:31:44 AM from Jen Deegan: :-)
10/28/2008 10:31:46 AM from Amina Abdulla: Jen yes
10/28/2008 10:31:49 AM from Jen Deegan: Happened to me too.
10/28/2008 10:31:52 AM from Jen Deegan: Thanks Amina.
10/28/2008 10:31:55 AM from Amina Abdulla: Hi David
10/28/2008 10:31:55 AM from Tanya: bye now
10/28/2008 10:32:00 AM from Jen Deegan: bye Tanya.
10/28/2008 10:32:11 AM from Amina Abdulla: I didn't realize you guys switched
10/28/2008 10:32:17 AM from Amina Abdulla: bye Tanya
10/28/2008 10:32:26 AM from Jen Deegan: yes last weekend so it was done when I got home.
10/28/2008 10:32:30 AM from Karen: bye all
10/28/2008 10:32:37 AM from Jen Deegan: SHall I just start talking about the dev thing?
10/28/2008 10:32:40 AM from Amina Abdulla: bye Karen
10/28/2008 10:32:45 AM from Amina Abdulla: go ahead Jen
10/28/2008 10:32:49 AM from Jen Deegan: great
10/28/2008 10:32:54 AM from Jen Deegan: so it's about the tree viewer
10/28/2008 10:33:23 AM from Jen Deegan: there's a really weird threading bug and Nicolas says that it's to do with swing not being thread safe and John having set up a lot of complex threading.
10/28/2008 10:33:24 AM from Amina Abdulla: David the xps commit works for me
10/28/2008 10:34:04 AM from Amina Abdulla: did you see my response - would be great if you gave me a test case
10/28/2008 10:34:14 AM from Amina Abdulla: oh - what is this bug about Jen
10/28/2008 10:34:18 AM from Jen Deegan: We're having bug redraw problems but they go away if we put a line in to redraw the tree as the very last step, with all the child terms opened out.
10/28/2008 10:34:25 AM from Jen Deegan: big, not bug.:-)
10/28/2008 10:34:41 AM from David OS: Problem is - it only works intermittently for me. Will see if I can find some pattern but first impressions were that it was random
10/28/2008 10:35:05 AM from Jen Deegan:
so the problem with that is the one of the config options is to make is so only one instance of each terms is opened out completely so if we put in a line to expand all paths then that option is lost.
10/28/2008 10:35:14 AM from Jen Deegan: But maybe no one would miss it?
10/28/2008 10:36:11 AM from Amina Abdulla: Right - the intermittent bugs are tricky
10/28/2008 10:36:21 AM from Jen Deegan: yes this one is really bizarre.
10/28/2008 10:36:22 AM from Amina Abdulla: Jen do you think you can demo this
10/28/2008 10:36:27 AM from Jen Deegan: yes absolutely
10/28/2008 10:38:27 AM from Amina Abdulla: on webex - worked last time
10/28/2008 10:38:31 AM from Jen Deegan: oh okay.
10/28/2008 10:38:40 AM from Jen Deegan: eclipse still starting
10/28/2008 10:42:55 AM from Jen Deegan: so file loaded.
10/28/2008 10:43:07 AM from Jen Deegan: now I click on a term in the OTE to have it show in tree viewer
10/28/2008 10:43:26 AM from Jen Deegan: mysteriously, the tree does not expand the first time.
10/28/2008 10:43:36 AM from Jen Deegan: the second time it does expand
10/28/2008 10:43:51 AM from Jen Deegan: when I click again on the same term the tree closes again.
10/28/2008 10:43:55 AM from Jen Deegan: bizarre!
10/28/2008 10:44:02 AM from Amina Abdulla: oh yeah
10/28/2008 10:44:04 AM from Jen Deegan: it does this on alternate selections of the same term.
10/28/2008 10:44:21 AM from Jen Deegan: but if I select a different term each time the is only doesn't expand about every tenth term
10/28/2008 10:44:43 AM from Jen Deegan: sometimes the tree expands and then top four lines are replaced by an entirely blank space.
10/28/2008 10:44:51 AM from Nomi Harris: Weird.
10/28/2008 10:44:55 AM from Jen Deegan: sometime that last three term are printed over the first three.
10/28/2008 10:45:03 AM from Amina Abdulla: I haven't seen that
10/28/2008 10:45:06 AM from Jen Deegan: highly mysterious.
10/28/2008 10:45:30 AM from Jen Deegan: so the think is that if you look at a diff between the console output for the expanded version and the non-expanded version..
10/28/2008 10:45:34 AM from Jen Deegan: would you like to see that too?
10/28/2008 10:45:37 AM from Amina Abdulla: is there a pattern I can use to investigate
10/28/2008 10:46:02 AM from Amina Abdulla: yeah
10/28/2008 10:46:04 AM from Jen Deegan: yes if you click the same term in the OTE repeatedly then is goes open/closed/open/closed
10/28/2008 10:46:10 AM from Jen Deegan: I'll get that diff
10/28/2008 10:46:47 AM from Jen Deegan: this is the diff
10/28/2008 10:47:27 AM from Jen Deegan: what you see is that when the tree viewer opens the tree the TreeView doUpdate run method runs much earlier then the time when it runs in the closed version
10/28/2008 10:47:37 AM from Jen Deegan: I will page down so you can see when it runs in the closed version
10/28/2008 10:47:50 AM from Jen Deegan: closed on the right, open on the left
10/28/2008 10:48:06 AM from Jen Deegan: Nicolas says it's to do with threading going a bit nuts.
10/28/2008 10:48:51 AM from Jen Deegan: are you still there?
10/28/2008 10:49:00 AM from Nomi Harris: Yes
10/28/2008 10:49:03 AM from Jen Deegan: oh good.
10/28/2008 10:49:07 AM from Jen Deegan: did that make sense?
10/28/2008 10:49:15 AM from Amina Abdulla: Yes I see what you mean
10/28/2008 10:49:21 AM from Jen Deegan: oh good
10/28/2008 10:49:36 AM from Jen Deegan: this is the treeViewer in treeView package
10/28/2008 10:49:48 AM from Jen Deegan: not the one in components
10/28/2008 10:50:10 AM from Nomi Harris: Confusing that there are two
10/28/2008 10:50:12 AM from Jen Deegan: I have commented out the Trimpaths option checkbox because that option does not work with the workaround we put in.
10/28/2008 10:50:24 AM from Jen Deegan: yes it's just a temporary thing while I've been working on this.
10/28/2008 10:50:32 AM from Nomi Harris: That seems ok, to comment out that checkbox.
10/28/2008 10:50:35 AM from Jen Deegan: I think we could take the old one out now as the new one works much better.
10/28/2008 10:50:40 AM from Nomi Harris: I'd just check with midori. I doubt anyone else will mind.
10/28/2008 10:50:46 AM from Jen Deegan: great
10/28/2008 10:50:48 AM from Jen Deegan: I'll do that.
10/28/2008 10:50:53 AM from Amina Abdulla:yeah sounds good
10/28/2008 10:51:13 AM from Nomi Harris: And check whether the help page needs to be updated.
10/28/2008 10:51:18 AM from Jen Deegan: If we could fix the threading that would be better, but I'm not sure the loss of that checkbox would be a disaster of the threading had to be kept for another day.
10/28/2008 10:51:22 AM from Jen Deegan: yes good point.
10/28/2008 10:51:44 AM from Nomi Harris: I don't think it's a disaster, and threading problems can be really tricky.
10/28/2008 10:52:09 AM from Jen Deegan: I know John said he did some very complicated things with swing and threading.
10/28/2008 10:52:26 AM from Nomi Harris: Yes indeed.
10/28/2008 10:52:31 AM from Jen Deegan: Nicolas looked and the docs said swing was not thread safe.
10/28/2008 10:57:54 AM from Jen Deegan: Shall I change the import statement so everybody gets the new treeview?
10/28/2008 10:58:06 AM from Amina Abdulla: yeah that would be great Jen
10/28/2008 10:58:10 AM from Amina Abdulla: thanks
10/28/2008 10:58:13 AM from Jen Deegan: okay, will do.
10/28/2008 10:58:35 AM from Jen Deegan: the only remaining bug is that you always start with the java default tree showing, but I am trying to get that to go away.
10/28/2008 10:58:42 AM from Jen Deegan: Thanks for the chat.
10/28/2008 11:02:43 AM from Nomi Harris: Bye!
10/28/2008 11:02:46 AM from Jen Deegan: byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
10/28/2008 11:02:52 AM from Amina Abdulla: bye