From GO Public
09/02/2008 09:26:13 AM from Jen Deegan: Hi Nomi
09/02/2008 09:28:04 AM from Nomi Harris: Hello
09/02/2008 09:28:08 AM from midori: hi
09/02/2008 09:28:12 AM from Jen Deegan: Hi
09/02/2008 09:29:01 AM from Amina: Hi Midori and Jen
09/02/2008 09:29:11 AM from Jen Deegan: Hi Amina
09/02/2008 09:29:31 AM from Nomi Harris: Hi Tanya
09/02/2008 09:29:42 AM from Tanya: Hi Nomi
09/02/2008 09:29:46 AM from Amina: Jen I just updated one of your feature requests - add parent to filter menu
09/02/2008 09:29:47 AM from Tanya: and everyone selse
09/02/2008 09:29:54 AM from Tanya: else (augh, still in vacation mode)
09/02/2008 09:30:01 AM from Nomi Harris: I just got back from vacation, too.
09/02/2008 09:30:08 AM from midori: some people have been on vacation ...
09/02/2008 09:30:13 AM from midori: lucky sods ;)
09/02/2008 09:30:27 AM from Nomi Harris: Hey, you guys get more vacation time than we do!
09/02/2008 09:30:39 AM from Amina: Let me know if that was what you were looking for
09/02/2008 09:30:42 AM from midori: touche
09/02/2008 09:30:49 AM from Nomi Harris: Hi, David.
09/02/2008 09:31:02 AM from Jen Deegan: I actually answered already
09/02/2008 09:31:05 AM from Jen Deegan: yes
09/02/2008 09:31:18 AM from Jen Deegan: It needs to be the term search really
09/02/2008 09:31:31 AM from Amina: Right - just got that email
09/02/2008 09:31:34 AM from Jen Deegan: great
09/02/2008 09:31:35 AM from Jen Deegan: thanks
09/02/2008 09:32:28 AM from Jen Deegan: I'm waiting to get back to you on those other bug reports after the next release.
09/02/2008 09:32:51 AM from Amina: Yeah we'll have a realease today
09/02/2008 09:33:00 AM from Jen Deegan: great
09/02/2008 09:33:13 AM from Amina: I cant promise if I'll have this one implemented today though
09/02/2008 09:33:18 AM from Amina: I'll try
09/02/2008 09:33:18 AM from Jen Deegan: Mind you, we have Chris visiting tomorrow, and then I am away until a week on monday.
09/02/2008 09:33:24 AM from Jen Deegan: no rush. :-)
09/02/2008 09:33:39 AM from Jen Deegan: thanks for taking a look at it.
09/02/2008 09:33:51 AM from Nomi Harris: It's great that Chris is visiting.
09/02/2008 09:33:58 AM from Jen Deegan: yes that will be good
09/02/2008 09:34:03 AM from Nomi Harris: We're hoping he can look over midori's shoulder and figure out what's causing her mysterious CPU spikes.
09/02/2008 09:34:11 AM from Amina: So while searching for terms that have a given parent - is this something you'd like in the Advanced search options
09/02/2008 09:34:12 AM from Jen Deegan: yes that's in the plan.
09/02/2008 09:34:32 AM from Amina: or as a prerequisite
09/02/2008 09:34:38 AM from Jen Deegan: I thought it might just go in the menu with the ancestor and descendent
09/02/2008 09:34:42 AM from midori: I'd like Chris to see how we work generally anyway ... there are some OE behaviors that get annoying ...
09/02/2008 09:34:43 AM from Amina: The way its implemented for Link Search
09/02/2008 09:34:53 AM from Jen Deegan: I'll take a look
09/02/2008 09:34:55 AM from Jen Deegan: just a sec
09/02/2008 09:34:56 AM from Nomi Harris: Yes, many times I've wished I could look over your shoulders.
09/02/2008 09:35:00 AM from Nomi Harris: It's hard not having any on-site users.
09/02/2008 09:35:17 AM from Jen Deegan: I can work late if you ever want to look at my work
09/02/2008 09:35:23 AM from Jen Deegan: just needs a bit of prior planning.
09/02/2008 09:35:26 AM from Nomi Harris: I talked briefly to Amelia but she said her usage pattern is pretty different from yours.
09/02/2008 09:35:40 AM from Jen Deegan: oh
09/02/2008 09:35:45 AM from Jen Deegan: I wonder how she knows?
09/02/2008 09:35:52 AM from Nomi Harris: Jen, you mean via WebEx? That's better than nothing, but the lag can make it hard to follow.
09/02/2008 09:35:53 AM from Jen Deegan: The link search setup looks good.
09/02/2008 09:35:59 AM from Jen Deegan: oh yes I suppose so.
09/02/2008 09:36:00 AM from midori: I'm also willing to work late if we arrange in advance.
09/02/2008 09:36:06 AM from Nomi Harris: Thanks.
09/02/2008 09:36:12 AM from Jen Deegan: oh no
09/02/2008 09:36:14 AM from Jen Deegan: sorry
09/02/2008 09:36:18 AM from Jen Deegan: parent there is in the top menu
09/02/2008 09:36:23 AM from Jen Deegan: I'd like it in the bottom one.
09/02/2008 09:36:26 AM from Jen Deegan: with ancestor
09/02/2008 09:36:30 AM from Jen Deegan: does that make sense?
09/02/2008 09:36:33 AM from Amina: thats what I wanted to know
09/02/2008 09:36:39 AM from Jen Deegan: so that I can find all terms that have a given parent
09/02/2008 09:36:43 AM from Tanya: Nomi - I also edit quite frequently and am only across the bay :)
09/02/2008 09:36:53 AM from Jen Deegan: Yes Tanya's a pro.
09/02/2008 09:36:53 AM from Nomi Harris: Yes, we were saying we should have you visit some time!
09/02/2008 09:36:53 AM from Tanya: so if you desperately need a live guinea pig...
09/02/2008 09:37:02 AM from midori: Do you get mysterious CPU spikes?
09/02/2008 09:37:02 AM from Nomi Harris: That would be great.
09/02/2008 09:37:05 AM from Amina: Yeah it does - should be an easy fix
09/02/2008 09:37:15 AM from Jen Deegan: great, thanks.
09/02/2008 09:37:18 AM from Tanya: no, no spikes for me
09/02/2008 09:37:28 AM from midori: aaawww, nuts
09/02/2008 09:37:31 AM from Karen: I wouldn't mind coming over some time either.
09/02/2008 09:37:32 AM from Jen Deegan: I don't think I get them either
09/02/2008 09:37:37 AM from Nomi Harris: Great, Karen!
09/02/2008 09:37:42 AM from Jen Deegan: tea party!
09/02/2008 09:37:47 AM from Amina: Chris will also be looking at the workstations tomorrow
09/02/2008 09:38:00 AM from Amina: Maybe that can give us some more insights
09/02/2008 09:45:48 AM from Nomi Harris: So I was looking at the bug and feature requests, sorted in descending order by priority.
09/02/2008 09:46:04 AM from Nomi Harris: I'm assuming that any with priority >5 need to be fixed before the public release--is that right?
09/02/2008 09:46:07 AM from Amina: Yeah we just have a few 6's and some 5's
09/02/2008 09:46:22 AM from Jen Deegan: yes I think that was what we agreed.
09/02/2008 09:46:29 AM from Amina: looks like an achieveable goal
09/02/2008 09:46:34 AM from Nomi Harris: There are a few 7s in the feature requests.
09/02/2008 09:46:49 AM from Nomi Harris: midori, I'm disappointed that my synonym editor fix didn't eliminate your CPU spikes.
09/02/2008 09:46:52 AM from Amina: Yeah sorry I was just talking about the bugs
09/02/2008 09:46:59 AM from Jen Deegan: are you assuming that no. 5 feature requests also go in?
09/02/2008 09:47:12 AM from midori: It's knocked the frequency right down, so it is a big help.
09/02/2008 09:47:13 AM from Nomi Harris: There are a lot of 5s in both bug and feature requests.
09/02/2008 09:47:32 AM from Nomi Harris: I don't think we can do all of them, so if there are some that are higher priority, you should bump them up to 6.
09/02/2008 09:47:40 AM from Jen Deegan: ok, thanks.
09/02/2008 09:47:50 AM from Nomi Harris: It's ok to use 6, that's not a "world is coming to an end" priority score.
09/02/2008 09:47:57 AM from midori: I suspect not everybody has rated their priorities since I dished out permissions 2 or 3 weeks ago.
09/02/2008 09:48:06 AM from Jen Deegan: I did mine
09/02/2008 09:48:12 AM from Nomi Harris: Also, if there are 5s that are really not critical, it might be good to downgrade them to 3 or 4.
09/02/2008 09:48:23 AM from Jen Deegan: I will redo feature requests when I get back from holiday.
09/02/2008 09:48:29 AM from Nomi Harris: The tracker always assigns 5 as the default priority, so a 5 can't necessarily be assumed to be a 5.
09/02/2008 09:48:30 AM from Jen Deegan: I did that.
09/02/2008 09:48:38 AM from Amina: Todays release should get rid of a couple of bugs - hopefully we can close them if there aren;t any more complaints
09/02/2008 09:48:39 AM from Nomi Harris: When are you away, Jen?
09/02/2008 09:48:43 AM from Jen Deegan: good point. I'll double check new ones.
09/02/2008 09:48:54 AM from Jen Deegan: from Thursday to a week on monday.
09/02/2008 09:49:03 AM from Jen Deegan: but we have Chris tomorrow.
09/02/2008 09:49:09 AM from Nomi Harris: Right, yay.
09/02/2008 09:50:08 AM from Amina: Midori is the obomerge bug a hinderance at the moment?
09/02/2008 09:50:34 AM from Jen Deegan: we have a workaround but it needs fixed for the release really.
09/02/2008 09:50:44 AM from midori: I've worked around it for the one big merge I've had to do, and it's not likely that I'll have to do any merges for a while.
09/02/2008 09:51:09 AM from Amina: o ok - I'll look into it by next week then
09/02/2008 09:51:14 AM from midori: For other users, though, it really ought to be fixed -- the result is quite nasty.
09/02/2008 09:51:42 AM from Amina: I'm trying to get done with all the reasoner related issues this week
09/02/2008 09:51:47 AM from Jen Deegan: great
09/02/2008 09:53:34 AM from Nomi Harris: I don't have a lot of discussion topics today since I was away all last week.
09/02/2008 09:53:49 AM from Jen Deegan: Me neither
09/02/2008 09:54:09 AM from Nomi Harris: Anyone else?
09/02/2008 09:54:10 AM from midori: OK. I've just been doing normal editing, with just a few CPU spikes.
09/02/2008 09:54:32 AM from Amina: I think after Chris's visit tomorrow we'll have more insight into that
09/02/2008 09:54:34 AM from David OS: NOthing new from me either - I've hardly touched oboedit as have to work on other FB stuff...
09/02/2008 09:54:53 AM from Nomi Harris: Yes, let us know how Chris's visit goes.
09/02/2008 09:55:01 AM from Amina: Jen - did you do any testing with the semantic parser
09/02/2008 09:55:12 AM from Jen Deegan: no I didn't understand how it worked
09/02/2008 09:55:27 AM from midori: We're waiting for Chris to demo it tomorrow
09/02/2008 09:55:30 AM from Jen Deegan: I gather it's a command line only thing
09/02/2008 09:55:45 AM from Amina: The gui is fixed
09/02/2008 09:55:50 AM from Jen Deegan: brilliant
09/02/2008 09:55:55 AM from Jen Deegan: is it documented?
09/02/2008 09:56:03 AM from Amina: no not yet
09/02/2008 09:56:09 AM from Tanya: I'll try to have a look at the semantic parser later this week.
09/02/2008 09:56:22 AM from Jen Deegan: would be great if you got a chance, since you know how it works.
09/02/2008 09:56:26 AM from Amina: I'm waiting for a demo too
09/02/2008 09:56:40 AM from Tanya: Maybe I can rope David (H) into looking at the results too
09/02/2008 09:56:49 AM from Jen Deegan: good idea
09/02/2008 09:56:53 AM from Tanya: we use the output for QC
09/02/2008 09:57:07 AM from Tanya: but haven't looked at it in OE2
09/02/2008 09:58:04 AM from Amina: Tanya I'm not sure if its different in OE1 and OE2 - I can take a look and let you know
09/02/2008 09:58:20 AM from Tanya: oh, we were looking at flat files of the result.
09/02/2008 09:58:25 AM from Tanya: Not using OE1
09/02/2008 09:58:28 AM from Amina: We'll try to have some documentation after chris gets back
09/02/2008 09:58:33 AM from midori: OE1 doesn't have a GUI for it
09/02/2008 09:58:35 AM from Amina: oh ic
09/02/2008 09:58:35 AM from Tanya: not sure it's in OE1 anyhow
09/02/2008 09:58:45 AM from Jen Deegan: I don't think it is.
09/02/2008 10:00:01 AM from Nomi Harris: Are we done?
09/02/2008 10:00:01 AM from Amina: Ok I haven't looked at it much
09/02/2008 10:00:24 AM from midori: I can be done.
09/02/2008 10:00:27 AM from Jen Deegan: I think we may be done.
09/02/2008 10:00:32 AM from Nomi Harris: Bye, all!
09/02/2008 10:00:32 AM from Tanya: Well done.
09/02/2008 10:00:35 AM from Jen Deegan: bye then
09/02/2008 10:00:35 AM from Tanya: Bye!
09/02/2008 10:00:36 AM from Nomi Harris: Have a nice vacation, Jen.
09/02/2008 10:00:39 AM from Jen Deegan: thanks :-)