OE Webex 2Sep08

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09/02/2008    09:26:13 AM    from Jen Deegan:	Hi Nomi
09/02/2008    09:28:04 AM    from Nomi Harris:	Hello
09/02/2008    09:28:08 AM    from midori:	hi
09/02/2008    09:28:12 AM    from Jen Deegan:	Hi
09/02/2008    09:29:01 AM    from Amina:	Hi Midori and Jen
09/02/2008    09:29:11 AM    from Jen Deegan:	Hi Amina
09/02/2008    09:29:31 AM    from Nomi Harris:	Hi Tanya
09/02/2008    09:29:42 AM    from Tanya:	Hi Nomi
09/02/2008    09:29:46 AM    from Amina:	Jen I just updated one of your feature requests - add parent to filter menu
09/02/2008    09:29:47 AM    from Tanya:	and everyone selse
09/02/2008    09:29:54 AM    from Tanya:	else (augh, still in vacation mode)
09/02/2008    09:30:01 AM    from Nomi Harris:	I just got back from vacation, too.
09/02/2008    09:30:08 AM    from midori:	some people have been on vacation ...
09/02/2008    09:30:13 AM    from midori:	lucky sods ;)
09/02/2008    09:30:27 AM    from Nomi Harris:	Hey, you guys get more vacation time than we do!
09/02/2008    09:30:39 AM    from Amina:	Let me know if that was what you were looking for
09/02/2008    09:30:42 AM    from midori:	touche
09/02/2008    09:30:49 AM    from Nomi Harris:	Hi, David.
09/02/2008    09:31:02 AM    from Jen Deegan:	I actually answered already
09/02/2008    09:31:05 AM    from Jen Deegan:	yes
09/02/2008    09:31:18 AM    from Jen Deegan:	It needs to be the term search really
09/02/2008    09:31:31 AM    from Amina:	Right - just got that email
09/02/2008    09:31:34 AM    from Jen Deegan:	great
09/02/2008    09:31:35 AM    from Jen Deegan:	thanks
09/02/2008    09:32:28 AM    from Jen Deegan:	I'm waiting to get back to you on those other bug reports after the next release.
09/02/2008    09:32:51 AM    from Amina:	Yeah we'll have a realease today
09/02/2008    09:33:00 AM    from Jen Deegan:	great
09/02/2008    09:33:13 AM    from Amina:	I cant promise if I'll have this one implemented today though
09/02/2008    09:33:18 AM    from Amina:	I'll try
09/02/2008    09:33:18 AM    from Jen Deegan:	Mind you, we have Chris visiting tomorrow, and then I am away until a week on monday.
09/02/2008    09:33:24 AM    from Jen Deegan:	no rush. :-)
09/02/2008    09:33:39 AM    from Jen Deegan:	thanks for taking a look at it.
09/02/2008    09:33:51 AM    from Nomi Harris:	It's great that Chris is visiting.
09/02/2008    09:33:58 AM    from Jen Deegan:	yes that will be good
09/02/2008    09:34:03 AM    from Nomi Harris:	We're hoping he can look over midori's shoulder and figure out what's causing her mysterious CPU spikes.
09/02/2008    09:34:11 AM    from Amina:	So while searching for terms that have a given parent - is this something you'd like in the Advanced search options
09/02/2008    09:34:12 AM    from Jen Deegan:	yes that's in the plan.
09/02/2008    09:34:32 AM    from Amina:	or as a prerequisite
09/02/2008    09:34:38 AM    from Jen Deegan:	I thought it might just go in the menu with the ancestor and descendent
09/02/2008    09:34:42 AM    from midori:	I'd like Chris to see how we work generally anyway ... there are some OE behaviors that get annoying ...
09/02/2008    09:34:43 AM    from Amina:	The way its implemented for Link Search
09/02/2008    09:34:53 AM    from Jen Deegan:	I'll take a look
09/02/2008    09:34:55 AM    from Jen Deegan:	just a sec
09/02/2008    09:34:56 AM    from Nomi Harris:	Yes, many times I've wished I could look over your shoulders.
09/02/2008    09:35:00 AM    from Nomi Harris:	It's hard not having any on-site users.
09/02/2008    09:35:17 AM    from Jen Deegan:	I can work late if you ever want to look at my work
09/02/2008    09:35:23 AM    from Jen Deegan:	just needs a bit of prior planning.
09/02/2008    09:35:26 AM    from Nomi Harris:	I talked briefly to Amelia but she said her usage pattern is pretty different from yours.
09/02/2008    09:35:40 AM    from Jen Deegan:	oh
09/02/2008    09:35:45 AM    from Jen Deegan:	I wonder how she knows?
09/02/2008    09:35:52 AM    from Nomi Harris:	Jen, you mean via WebEx?  That's better than nothing, but the lag can make it hard to follow.
09/02/2008    09:35:53 AM    from Jen Deegan:	The link search setup looks good.
09/02/2008    09:35:59 AM    from Jen Deegan:	oh yes I suppose so.
09/02/2008    09:36:00 AM    from midori:	I'm also willing to work late if we arrange in advance.
09/02/2008    09:36:06 AM    from Nomi Harris:	Thanks.
09/02/2008    09:36:12 AM    from Jen Deegan:	oh no
09/02/2008    09:36:14 AM    from Jen Deegan:	sorry
09/02/2008    09:36:18 AM    from Jen Deegan:	parent there is in the top menu
09/02/2008    09:36:23 AM    from Jen Deegan:	I'd like it in the bottom one.
09/02/2008    09:36:26 AM    from Jen Deegan:	with ancestor
09/02/2008    09:36:30 AM    from Jen Deegan:	does that make sense?
09/02/2008    09:36:33 AM    from Amina:	thats what I wanted to know
09/02/2008    09:36:39 AM    from Jen Deegan:	so that I can find all terms that have a given parent
09/02/2008    09:36:43 AM    from Tanya:	Nomi - I also edit quite frequently and am only across the bay :)
09/02/2008    09:36:53 AM    from Jen Deegan:	Yes Tanya's a pro.
09/02/2008    09:36:53 AM    from Nomi Harris:	Yes, we were saying we should have you visit some time!
09/02/2008    09:36:53 AM    from Tanya:	so if you desperately need a live guinea pig...
09/02/2008    09:37:02 AM    from midori:	Do you  get mysterious CPU spikes?
09/02/2008    09:37:02 AM    from Nomi Harris:	That would be great.
09/02/2008    09:37:05 AM    from Amina:	Yeah it does - should be an easy fix
09/02/2008    09:37:15 AM    from Jen Deegan:	great, thanks.
09/02/2008    09:37:18 AM    from Tanya:	no, no spikes for me
09/02/2008    09:37:28 AM    from midori:	aaawww, nuts
09/02/2008    09:37:31 AM    from Karen:	I wouldn't mind coming over some time either.
09/02/2008    09:37:32 AM    from Jen Deegan:	I don't think I get them either
09/02/2008    09:37:37 AM    from Nomi Harris:	Great, Karen!
09/02/2008    09:37:42 AM    from Jen Deegan:	tea party!
09/02/2008    09:37:47 AM    from Amina:	Chris will also be looking at the workstations tomorrow
09/02/2008    09:38:00 AM    from Amina:	Maybe that can give us some more insights
09/02/2008    09:45:48 AM    from Nomi Harris:	So I was looking at the bug and feature requests, sorted in descending order by priority.
09/02/2008    09:46:04 AM    from Nomi Harris:	I'm assuming that any with priority >5 need to be fixed before the public release--is that right?
09/02/2008    09:46:07 AM    from Amina:	Yeah we just have a few 6's and some 5's
09/02/2008    09:46:22 AM    from Jen Deegan:	yes I think that was what we agreed.
09/02/2008    09:46:29 AM    from Amina:	looks like an achieveable goal
09/02/2008    09:46:34 AM    from Nomi Harris:	There are a few 7s in the feature requests.
09/02/2008    09:46:49 AM    from Nomi Harris:	midori, I'm disappointed that my synonym editor fix didn't eliminate your CPU spikes.
09/02/2008    09:46:52 AM    from Amina:	Yeah sorry I was just talking about the bugs
09/02/2008    09:46:59 AM    from Jen Deegan:	are you assuming that no. 5 feature requests also go in?
09/02/2008    09:47:12 AM    from midori:	It's knocked the frequency right down, so it is a big help.
09/02/2008    09:47:13 AM    from Nomi Harris:	There are a lot of 5s in both bug and feature requests.
09/02/2008    09:47:32 AM    from Nomi Harris:	I don't think we can do all of them, so if there are some that are higher priority, you should bump them up to 6.
09/02/2008    09:47:40 AM    from Jen Deegan:	ok, thanks.
09/02/2008    09:47:50 AM    from Nomi Harris:	It's ok to use 6, that's not a "world is coming to an end" priority score.
09/02/2008    09:47:57 AM    from midori:	I suspect not everybody has rated their priorities since I dished out permissions  2 or 3 weeks ago.
09/02/2008    09:48:06 AM    from Jen Deegan:	I did mine
09/02/2008    09:48:12 AM    from Nomi Harris:	Also, if there are 5s that are really not critical, it might be good to downgrade them to 3 or 4.
09/02/2008    09:48:23 AM    from Jen Deegan:	I will redo feature requests when I get back from holiday.
09/02/2008    09:48:29 AM    from Nomi Harris:	The tracker always assigns 5 as the default priority, so a 5 can't necessarily be assumed to be a 5.
09/02/2008    09:48:30 AM    from Jen Deegan:	I did that.
09/02/2008    09:48:38 AM    from Amina:	Todays release should get rid of a couple of bugs - hopefully we can close them if there aren;t any more complaints
09/02/2008    09:48:39 AM    from Nomi Harris:	When are you away, Jen?
09/02/2008    09:48:43 AM    from Jen Deegan:	good point. I'll double check new ones.
09/02/2008    09:48:54 AM    from Jen Deegan:	from Thursday to a week on monday.
09/02/2008    09:49:03 AM    from Jen Deegan:	but we have Chris tomorrow.
09/02/2008    09:49:09 AM    from Nomi Harris:	Right, yay.
09/02/2008    09:50:08 AM    from Amina:	Midori is the obomerge bug a hinderance at the moment?
09/02/2008    09:50:34 AM    from Jen Deegan:	we have a workaround but it needs fixed for the release really.
09/02/2008    09:50:44 AM    from midori:	I've worked around it for the one big merge I've had to do, and it's not likely that I'll have to do any merges for a while.
09/02/2008    09:51:09 AM    from Amina:	o ok - I'll look into it by next week then
09/02/2008    09:51:14 AM    from midori:	For other users, though, it really ought to be fixed -- the result is quite nasty.
09/02/2008    09:51:42 AM    from Amina:	I'm trying to get done with all the reasoner related issues this week
09/02/2008    09:51:47 AM    from Jen Deegan:	great
09/02/2008    09:53:34 AM    from Nomi Harris:	I don't have a lot of discussion topics today since I was away all last week.
09/02/2008    09:53:49 AM    from Jen Deegan:	Me neither
09/02/2008    09:54:09 AM    from Nomi Harris:	Anyone else?
09/02/2008    09:54:10 AM    from midori:	OK. I've just been doing normal editing, with just a few CPU spikes.
09/02/2008    09:54:32 AM    from Amina:	I think after Chris's visit tomorrow we'll have more insight into that
09/02/2008    09:54:34 AM    from David OS:	NOthing new from me either - I've hardly touched oboedit as have to work on other FB stuff...
09/02/2008    09:54:53 AM    from Nomi Harris:	Yes, let us know how Chris's visit goes.
09/02/2008    09:55:01 AM    from Amina:	Jen - did you do any testing with the semantic parser
09/02/2008    09:55:12 AM    from Jen Deegan:	no I didn't understand how it worked
09/02/2008    09:55:27 AM    from midori:	We're waiting for Chris to demo it tomorrow
09/02/2008    09:55:30 AM    from Jen Deegan:	I gather it's a command line only thing
09/02/2008    09:55:45 AM    from Amina:	The gui is fixed
09/02/2008    09:55:50 AM    from Jen Deegan:	brilliant
09/02/2008    09:55:55 AM    from Jen Deegan:	is it documented?
09/02/2008    09:56:03 AM    from Amina:	no not yet
09/02/2008    09:56:09 AM    from Tanya:	I'll try to have a look at the semantic parser later this week.
09/02/2008    09:56:22 AM    from Jen Deegan:	would be great if you got a chance, since you know how it works.
09/02/2008    09:56:26 AM    from Amina:	I'm waiting for a demo too
09/02/2008    09:56:40 AM    from Tanya:	Maybe I can rope David (H) into looking at the results too
09/02/2008    09:56:49 AM    from Jen Deegan:	good idea
09/02/2008    09:56:53 AM    from Tanya:	we use the output for QC
09/02/2008    09:57:07 AM    from Tanya:	but haven't looked at it in OE2
09/02/2008    09:58:04 AM    from Amina:	Tanya I'm not sure if its different in OE1 and OE2 - I can take a look and let you know
09/02/2008    09:58:20 AM    from Tanya:	oh, we were looking at flat files of the result.
09/02/2008    09:58:25 AM    from Tanya:	Not using OE1
09/02/2008    09:58:28 AM    from Amina:	We'll try to have some documentation after chris gets back
09/02/2008    09:58:33 AM    from midori:	OE1 doesn't have a GUI for it
09/02/2008    09:58:35 AM    from Amina:	oh ic
09/02/2008    09:58:35 AM    from Tanya:	not sure it's in OE1 anyhow
09/02/2008    09:58:45 AM    from Jen Deegan:	I don't think it is.
09/02/2008    10:00:01 AM    from Nomi Harris:	Are we done?
09/02/2008    10:00:01 AM    from Amina:	Ok I haven't looked at it much
09/02/2008    10:00:24 AM    from midori:	I can be done.
09/02/2008    10:00:27 AM    from Jen Deegan:	I think we may be done.
09/02/2008    10:00:32 AM    from Nomi Harris:	Bye, all!
09/02/2008    10:00:32 AM    from Tanya:	Well done.
09/02/2008    10:00:35 AM    from Jen Deegan:	bye then
09/02/2008    10:00:35 AM    from Tanya:	Bye!
09/02/2008    10:00:36 AM    from Nomi Harris:	Have a nice vacation, Jen.
09/02/2008    10:00:39 AM    from Jen Deegan:	thanks :-)