WPWG-20080826-transcript

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(08:34:22 AM) sjcarbon: Mornin'. Amelia was right behind me.

(08:35:21 AM) ben: hi

(08:35:55 AM) gwg [gwg@plutonium.lbl.gov] entered the room.

(08:41:58 AM) sidd [sidd@reserved-dhcp-165-124-223-116.nubic.northwestern.edu] entered the room.

(08:43:04 AM) ben: best chat ever?

(08:43:20 AM) gwg: Best. Chat. Evar!!!11!!11!!1!

(08:43:41 AM) sjcarbon: I guess Rama will be here soon...

(08:43:48 AM) sjcarbon: Then the party can start.

(08:45:32 AM) sjcarbon: But really, we don't have anything on the agenda and I can't demo anything until we get our new machine.

(08:45:53 AM) sjcarbon: Siddartha, how goes the GWT stuff?

(08:46:16 AM) sidd: Not bad

(08:46:40 AM) sidd: The 1.5version is running

(08:47:20 AM) sidd: Is your machine still down Seth

(08:47:25 AM) rama [rama@c-24-7-118-198.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] entered the room.

(08:47:26 AM) ben: sorry what is GWT?

(08:47:32 AM) sidd: Google web toolkit

(08:47:48 AM) sjcarbon: The ref genome interface.

(08:47:50 AM) rama: hi there..sorry I am late.

(08:47:55 AM) sjcarbon: no problem.

(08:48:08 AM) ben: kewl

(08:48:17 AM) sjcarbon: sidd: my machine will be offline until we can get a new one.

(08:48:43 AM) sjcarbon: It got taken offline because of a DDOS attack for the past week or so.

(08:49:14 AM) pascale [pascale@vpn161019.vpn.northwestern.edu] entered the room.

(08:49:17 AM) sjcarbon: As soon as we get the new machine, I'll move everything over.

(08:49:48 AM) sidd: not a problem

(08:49:58 AM) sjcarbon: Also, I tried installing your new RG stuff, but it seems to have been missing a few libraries.

(08:50:09 AM) sjcarbon: Are all of the externals committed as well?

(08:50:19 AM) sidd: sure i did

(08:50:32 AM) sjcarbon: Hmmm...

(08:50:35 AM) sidd: Ok i will give another shot in my machine

(08:50:49 AM) sjcarbon: I'll try and send you the error messages later on.

(08:50:54 AM) sidd: sure

(08:51:25 AM) sidd: I will try to make another war file from that version and send it to you for testing

(08:52:19 AM) sjcarbon: that would be great! tomcat is so picky.

(08:52:50 AM) sidd: no doubt

(08:53:35 AM) sjcarbon: It looks like everybody is here. However, we don't really have anything on the agenda...anything that people would like to talk about?

(08:54:13 AM) sjcarbon: I'll have the ref gen demos up when I get the new machine, but until then...

(08:54:16 AM) gwg: well, I keep hearing these voices...

(08:54:24 AM) rama: Can you please go over how the Refgenome data is getting into the db?

(08:54:34 AM) ben: what is the schedule for 1.6?

(08:54:45 AM) ben: (roughly)

(08:55:39 AM) sjcarbon: up for testing in the next two weeks. it needs to be moving forward with the RG paper.

(08:55:57 AM) sjcarbon: suzi wanted a bunch redone, which is why it got derailed.

(08:56:09 AM) sjcarbon: rama: I don't really know.

(08:56:54 AM) rama: What does Suzi want redone. I am little lost

(08:57:53 AM) sjcarbon: She wanted certain evidence code irregularities detected that I didn't have the plumbing for, like evidence-based ISS.

(08:58:16 AM) ben left the room (quit: Read error: Operation timed out).

(08:58:17 AM) sjcarbon: Had to rip-up a bunch of code to get that working.

(08:58:50 AM) rama: okay..

(08:59:15 AM) rama: are we going to open up the alpha version to the public for testing

(08:59:52 AM) sjcarbon: Yes, as soon as it gets sanity checked. And I get my new machine.

(09:00:23 AM) rama: okay.

(09:02:00 AM) sjcarbon: Are there any other topics of interest?

(09:02:19 AM) rama: any action items? Should we check with the PIs before we open up for alpha testing

(09:02:31 AM) pascale: I think the PIs would agree

(09:02:39 AM) sjcarbon: No action items.

(09:02:43 AM) ben [hitz@c-98-210-219-14.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] entered the room.

(09:02:44 AM) rama: I think we should post it on the GO mailing list first

(09:02:49 AM) pascale: do we really need to ask? I can say something at the managers meeting tomorrow

(09:02:59 AM) ben: hey, here is some free advice: don't connect your VPN while chatting

(09:03:08 AM) pascale: let me know and I'll pass along the info

(09:03:10 AM) ben: the refgenom info is loaded via this file:

(09:03:13 AM) pascale: oh why?

(09:03:21 AM) ben: ftp://ftp.informatics.jax.org/pub/curatorwork/GODB/refg_id_list.txt

(09:03:34 AM) rama: thanks Ben

(09:03:35 AM) ben: it kicks you off and is very tricky to get back on

(09:03:50 AM) pascale: oh you mean you changed you vpn WHILE chatting

(09:03:54 AM) gwg: and you miss valuable seconds of WPWG excitement!

(09:03:59 AM) ben: since you are basically changing your IP address mid stream

(09:04:03 AM) rama: When we open it up to the general public for testing, we should be prepared to deal with all the comments.

(09:04:10 AM) pascale: (yes I noticed that with the AOL client too; skype seems more stable)

(09:04:26 AM) rama: are the users going to send comments to go-help or submit it via SF?

(09:04:38 AM) rama: you know- small details like that

(09:05:26 AM) gwg: If they're savvy users, they can submit via SF; non-savvy ones can send comments to GO help

(09:06:04 AM) rama: then it is going to be hard to collate etc...minor details I know...but we are all pressed for time.. I am thinking of optimizing

(09:06:39 AM) gwg: perhaps we can worry about these details when/if we get comments? Usually no one says anything!

(09:06:48 AM) sjcarbon: we'll send this to the GO list to get comments. i think the idea of doing it open is to speed up the process.

(09:08:03 AM) rama: I guess we will figure it out as we go

(09:08:16 AM) sjcarbon: it'll be fun to try something new!

(09:08:28 AM) rama: oh..defintely

(09:09:06 AM) gwg: Is there anything else to discuss?

(09:09:52 AM) rama: I have nothing to add

(09:10:00 AM) ben: no

(09:10:00 AM) pascale: me neither

(09:10:05 AM) sjcarbon: any other topics?

(09:10:07 AM) sjcarbon: going once...

(09:10:17 AM) sjcarbon: going twice...

(09:10:25 AM) rama: Pascale please mention the testing thing in the Managers call

(09:10:37 AM) pascale: sure

(09:10:41 AM) sjcarbon: (action item!)

(09:10:48 AM) pascale: if you would like me to say anything specific email

(09:10:53 AM) gwg left the room.

(09:10:59 AM) sjcarbon: no problem.

(09:11:02 AM) rama: bye

(09:11:05 AM) pascale: otherwise I'll say that we're ready to announce the test version to the GO mailing list?

(09:11:18 AM) sjcarbon: that should be fine.

(09:11:20 AM) rama: they will expect a date...so please be prepared

(09:11:40 AM) pascale: do you have a date?

(09:11:54 AM) sidd: seth: one small thing is the postgresql server offline too

(09:12:13 AM) pascale: can you guys email me exactly the info I should pass along :)

(09:12:17 AM) sjcarbon: unfortunately, a lot of this depends on when I get my new machine. I'll give everyone a weeks heads-up.

(09:13:00 AM) sjcarbon: sidd: do you know which machine that is?

(09:14:21 AM) sidd: just a sec

(09:14:51 AM) sjcarbon: if there is nothing else, I can just chat with Siddartha a bit--y'all don't need to hang around...

(09:15:02 AM) rama: lovely. thanks Seth.

(09:15:03 AM) sidd: spitz

(09:15:19 AM) pascale: alright ciao !

(09:15:24 AM) sjcarbon: pascale: i'll email the list when I get the machine.

(09:15:30 AM) pascale: ok

(09:15:46 AM) sjcarbon: sidd: lemme check it real quick...

(09:15:49 AM) pascale: I just wanted to kjnow exactly what to tell the managers tomorrow- was that it?

(09:17:04 AM) sjcarbon: Once sanity checks for the data are done, we'll email the GO list for feedback so we can shorten the amount of time it takes to get 1.6 into production.

(09:17:34 AM) sjcarbon: sidd: what is the DB name?

(09:17:55 AM) sidd: seth: jdbc url: jdbc:postgresql://spitz.lbl.gov:5432/obd_refg

(09:18:04 AM) sidd: should be obd_refg

(09:19:29 AM) sjcarbon: pascale: Is that detaily enough?

(09:19:39 AM) pascale: yes sure

(09:19:51 AM) pascale: merci

(09:19:58 AM) sjcarbon: no problem.

(09:20:10 AM) sjcarbon: any other topics (besides sidd)?

(09:20:42 AM) sjcarbon: going once...

(09:20:59 AM) sjcarbon: going twice...

(09:21:31 AM) ben: just so you know, Edith a programmer from SGD will be coming to the GO meeting in quebec, instead of me. Be nice to her

(09:21:45 AM) pascale: I will do my best !!

(09:21:56 AM) pascale: so you were scared of the snow?

(09:22:08 AM) sjcarbon: ...there will be snow?

(09:22:13 AM) pascale: nah

(09:22:21 AM) sjcarbon: i hope not...

(09:22:26 AM) pascale: most likely not;)

(09:22:38 AM) pascale: although I have seen snow in october before!

(09:22:51 AM) sjcarbon: we'll miss you, ben

(09:23:23 AM) sjcarbon: nothing else?

(09:23:54 AM) sjcarbon: everyone is free! (except for sidd)

(09:24:10 AM) pascale: bonne journee!

(09:24:13 AM) pascale left the room.

(09:24:36 AM) sjcarbon: sidd: I'm on the DB right now with no problems. left me try a remote machine. (08:34:22 AM) sjcarbon: Mornin'. Amelia was right behind me.

(08:35:21 AM) ben: hi

(08:35:55 AM) gwg [gwg@plutonium.lbl.gov] entered the room.

(08:41:58 AM) sidd [sidd@reserved-dhcp-165-124-223-116.nubic.northwestern.edu] entered the room.

(08:43:04 AM) ben: best chat ever?

(08:43:20 AM) gwg: Best. Chat. Evar!!!11!!11!!1!

(08:43:41 AM) sjcarbon: I guess Rama will be here soon...

(08:43:48 AM) sjcarbon: Then the party can start.

(08:45:32 AM) sjcarbon: But really, we don't have anything on the agenda and I can't demo anything until we get our new machine.

(08:45:53 AM) sjcarbon: Siddartha, how goes the GWT stuff?

(08:46:16 AM) sidd: Not bad

(08:46:40 AM) sidd: The 1.5version is running

(08:47:20 AM) sidd: Is your machine still down Seth

(08:47:25 AM) rama [rama@c-24-7-118-198.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] entered the room.

(08:47:26 AM) ben: sorry what is GWT?

(08:47:32 AM) sidd: Google web toolkit

(08:47:48 AM) sjcarbon: The ref genome interface.

(08:47:50 AM) rama: hi there..sorry I am late.

(08:47:55 AM) sjcarbon: no problem.

(08:48:08 AM) ben: kewl

(08:48:17 AM) sjcarbon: sidd: my machine will be offline until we can get a new one.

(08:48:43 AM) sjcarbon: It got taken offline because of a DDOS attack for the past week or so.

(08:49:14 AM) pascale [pascale@vpn161019.vpn.northwestern.edu] entered the room.

(08:49:17 AM) sjcarbon: As soon as we get the new machine, I'll move everything over.

(08:49:48 AM) sidd: not a problem

(08:49:58 AM) sjcarbon: Also, I tried installing your new RG stuff, but it seems to have been missing a few libraries.

(08:50:09 AM) sjcarbon: Are all of the externals committed as well?

(08:50:19 AM) sidd: sure i did

(08:50:32 AM) sjcarbon: Hmmm...

(08:50:35 AM) sidd: Ok i will give another shot in my machine

(08:50:49 AM) sjcarbon: I'll try and send you the error messages later on.

(08:50:54 AM) sidd: sure

(08:51:25 AM) sidd: I will try to make another war file from that version and send it to you for testing

(08:52:19 AM) sjcarbon: that would be great! tomcat is so picky.

(08:52:50 AM) sidd: no doubt

(08:53:35 AM) sjcarbon: It looks like everybody is here. However, we don't really have anything on the agenda...anything that people would like to talk about?

(08:54:13 AM) sjcarbon: I'll have the ref gen demos up when I get the new machine, but until then...

(08:54:16 AM) gwg: well, I keep hearing these voices...

(08:54:24 AM) rama: Can you please go over how the Refgenome data is getting into the db?

(08:54:34 AM) ben: what is the schedule for 1.6?

(08:54:45 AM) ben: (roughly)

(08:55:39 AM) sjcarbon: up for testing in the next two weeks. it needs to be moving forward with the RG paper.

(08:55:57 AM) sjcarbon: suzi wanted a bunch redone, which is why it got derailed.

(08:56:09 AM) sjcarbon: rama: I don't really know.

(08:56:54 AM) rama: What does Suzi want redone. I am little lost

(08:57:53 AM) sjcarbon: She wanted certain evidence code irregularities detected that I didn't have the plumbing for, like evidence-based ISS.

(08:58:16 AM) ben left the room (quit: Read error: Operation timed out).

(08:58:17 AM) sjcarbon: Had to rip-up a bunch of code to get that working.

(08:58:50 AM) rama: okay..

(08:59:15 AM) rama: are we going to open up the alpha version to the public for testing

(08:59:52 AM) sjcarbon: Yes, as soon as it gets sanity checked. And I get my new machine.

(09:00:23 AM) rama: okay.

(09:02:00 AM) sjcarbon: Are there any other topics of interest?

(09:02:19 AM) rama: any action items? Should we check with the PIs before we open up for alpha testing

(09:02:31 AM) pascale: I think the PIs would agree

(09:02:39 AM) sjcarbon: No action items.

(09:02:43 AM) ben [hitz@c-98-210-219-14.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] entered the room.

(09:02:44 AM) rama: I think we should post it on the GO mailing list first

(09:02:49 AM) pascale: do we really need to ask? I can say something at the managers meeting tomorrow

(09:02:59 AM) ben: hey, here is some free advice: don't connect your VPN while chatting

(09:03:08 AM) pascale: let me know and I'll pass along the info

(09:03:10 AM) ben: the refgenom info is loaded via this file:

(09:03:13 AM) pascale: oh why?

(09:03:21 AM) ben: ftp://ftp.informatics.jax.org/pub/curatorwork/GODB/refg_id_list.txt

(09:03:34 AM) rama: thanks Ben

(09:03:35 AM) ben: it kicks you off and is very tricky to get back on

(09:03:50 AM) pascale: oh you mean you changed you vpn WHILE chatting

(09:03:54 AM) gwg: and you miss valuable seconds of WPWG excitement!

(09:03:59 AM) ben: since you are basically changing your IP address mid stream

(09:04:03 AM) rama: When we open it up to the general public for testing, we should be prepared to deal with all the comments.

(09:04:10 AM) pascale: (yes I noticed that with the AOL client too; skype seems more stable)

(09:04:26 AM) rama: are the users going to send comments to go-help or submit it via SF?

(09:04:38 AM) rama: you know- small details like that

(09:05:26 AM) gwg: If they're savvy users, they can submit via SF; non-savvy ones can send comments to GO help

(09:06:04 AM) rama: then it is going to be hard to collate etc...minor details I know...but we are all pressed for time.. I am thinking of optimizing

(09:06:39 AM) gwg: perhaps we can worry about these details when/if we get comments? Usually no one says anything!

(09:06:48 AM) sjcarbon: we'll send this to the GO list to get comments. i think the idea of doing it open is to speed up the process.

(09:08:03 AM) rama: I guess we will figure it out as we go

(09:08:16 AM) sjcarbon: it'll be fun to try something new!

(09:08:28 AM) rama: oh..defintely

(09:09:06 AM) gwg: Is there anything else to discuss?

(09:09:52 AM) rama: I have nothing to add

(09:10:00 AM) ben: no

(09:10:00 AM) pascale: me neither

(09:10:05 AM) sjcarbon: any other topics?

(09:10:07 AM) sjcarbon: going once...

(09:10:17 AM) sjcarbon: going twice...

(09:10:25 AM) rama: Pascale please mention the testing thing in the Managers call

(09:10:37 AM) pascale: sure

(09:10:41 AM) sjcarbon: (action item!)

(09:10:48 AM) pascale: if you would like me to say anything specific email

(09:10:53 AM) gwg left the room.

(09:10:59 AM) sjcarbon: no problem.

(09:11:02 AM) rama: bye

(09:11:05 AM) pascale: otherwise I'll say that we're ready to announce the test version to the GO mailing list?

(09:11:18 AM) sjcarbon: that should be fine.

(09:11:20 AM) rama: they will expect a date...so please be prepared

(09:11:40 AM) pascale: do you have a date?

(09:11:54 AM) sidd: seth: one small thing is the postgresql server offline too

(09:12:13 AM) pascale: can you guys email me exactly the info I should pass along :)

(09:12:17 AM) sjcarbon: unfortunately, a lot of this depends on when I get my new machine. I'll give everyone a weeks heads-up.

(09:13:00 AM) sjcarbon: sidd: do you know which machine that is?

(09:14:21 AM) sidd: just a sec

(09:14:51 AM) sjcarbon: if there is nothing else, I can just chat with Siddartha a bit--y'all don't need to hang around...

(09:15:02 AM) rama: lovely. thanks Seth.

(09:15:03 AM) sidd: spitz

(09:15:19 AM) pascale: alright ciao !

(09:15:24 AM) sjcarbon: pascale: i'll email the list when I get the machine.

(09:15:30 AM) pascale: ok

(09:15:46 AM) sjcarbon: sidd: lemme check it real quick...

(09:15:49 AM) pascale: I just wanted to kjnow exactly what to tell the managers tomorrow- was that it?

(09:17:04 AM) sjcarbon: Once sanity checks for the data are done, we'll email the GO list for feedback so we can shorten the amount of time it takes to get 1.6 into production.

(09:17:34 AM) sjcarbon: sidd: what is the DB name?

(09:17:55 AM) sidd: seth: jdbc url: jdbc:postgresql://spitz.lbl.gov:5432/obd_refg

(09:18:04 AM) sidd: should be obd_refg

(09:19:29 AM) sjcarbon: pascale: Is that detaily enough?

(09:19:39 AM) pascale: yes sure

(09:19:51 AM) pascale: merci

(09:19:58 AM) sjcarbon: no problem.

(09:20:10 AM) sjcarbon: any other topics (besides sidd)?

(09:20:42 AM) sjcarbon: going once...

(09:20:59 AM) sjcarbon: going twice...

(09:21:31 AM) ben: just so you know, Edith a programmer from SGD will be coming to the GO meeting in quebec, instead of me. Be nice to her

(09:21:45 AM) pascale: I will do my best !!

(09:21:56 AM) pascale: so you were scared of the snow?

(09:22:08 AM) sjcarbon: ...there will be snow?

(09:22:13 AM) pascale: nah

(09:22:21 AM) sjcarbon: i hope not...

(09:22:26 AM) pascale: most likely not;)

(09:22:38 AM) pascale: although I have seen snow in october before!

(09:22:51 AM) sjcarbon: we'll miss you, ben

(09:23:23 AM) sjcarbon: nothing else?

(09:23:54 AM) sjcarbon: everyone is free! (except for sidd)

(09:24:10 AM) pascale: bonne journee!

(09:24:13 AM) pascale left the room.

(09:24:36 AM) sjcarbon: sidd: I'm on the DB right now with no problems. left me try a remote machine.

(09:24:40 AM) ben: bye

(09:24:42 AM) ben left the room (quit: Quit: Quitting!).

(09:24:44 AM) sjcarbon: bye!

(09:24:51 AM) sidd: ok

(09:26:25 AM) sjcarbon: is that supposed to be a public db?

(09:27:28 AM) sidd: i am not sure

(09:27:39 AM) sjcarbon: have you used it before?

(09:27:42 AM) sidd: sure

(09:27:49 AM) sjcarbon: remotely?

(09:27:53 AM) sidd: If the machine is running i think it will be ok

(09:27:57 AM) sidd: yes remotely

(09:28:06 AM) sjcarbon: hmmm...lemme check permissions...

(09:29:28 AM) sjcarbon: do you have a password?

(09:29:36 AM) sjcarbon: hard-coded somewhere?

(09:30:02 AM) sidd: sure just a sec

(09:30:48 AM) sidd: u:remote_user

(09:30:52 AM) sidd: p:glurp

(09:31:01 AM) sjcarbon: ah...one of mine...

(09:31:04 AM) sjcarbon: just a sec...

(09:31:36 AM) sjcarbon: thanks. I now have remote access to the spitz obd_refg database.

(09:32:55 AM) sidd: great that means it is working as expected

(09:33:01 AM) sjcarbon: the problem would seem to be at your end then...

(09:33:09 AM) sjcarbon: oh! cool then!

(09:33:32 AM) sidd: thanks for the help Seth

(09:33:40 AM) sjcarbon: no problem.

(09:33:57 AM) sidd: will send a new war file once i get it done

(09:34:22 AM) sjcarbon: I'm around on skype if you need anything else.

(09:34:29 AM) sjcarbon: have a good day!

(09:34:35 AM) sidd: you too

(09:34:39 AM) sidd: bye!

(09:34:41 AM) sjcarbon: bye

(09:34:44 AM) sidd left the room (Leaving).

(09:34:48 AM) sjcarbon: bye, rama!

(09:24:40 AM) ben: bye

(09:24:42 AM) ben left the room (quit: Quit: Quitting!).

(09:24:44 AM) sjcarbon: bye!

(09:24:51 AM) sidd: ok

(09:26:25 AM) sjcarbon: is that supposed to be a public db?

(09:27:28 AM) sidd: i am not sure

(09:27:39 AM) sjcarbon: have you used it before?

(09:27:42 AM) sidd: sure

(09:27:49 AM) sjcarbon: remotely?

(09:27:53 AM) sidd: If the machine is running i think it will be ok

(09:27:57 AM) sidd: yes remotely

(09:28:06 AM) sjcarbon: hmmm...lemme check permissions...

(09:29:28 AM) sjcarbon: do you have a password?

(09:29:36 AM) sjcarbon: hard-coded somewhere?

(09:30:02 AM) sidd: sure just a sec

(09:30:48 AM) sidd: u:remote_user

(09:30:52 AM) sidd: p:glurp

(09:31:01 AM) sjcarbon: ah...one of mine...

(09:31:04 AM) sjcarbon: just a sec...

(09:31:36 AM) sjcarbon: thanks. I now have remote access to the spitz obd_refg database.

(09:32:55 AM) sidd: great that means it is working as expected

(09:33:01 AM) sjcarbon: the problem would seem to be at your end then...

(09:33:09 AM) sjcarbon: oh! cool then!

(09:33:32 AM) sidd: thanks for the help Seth

(09:33:40 AM) sjcarbon: no problem.

(09:33:57 AM) sidd: will send a new war file once i get it done

(09:34:22 AM) sjcarbon: I'm around on skype if you need anything else.

(09:34:29 AM) sjcarbon: have a good day!

(09:34:35 AM) sidd: you too

(09:34:39 AM) sidd: bye!

(09:34:41 AM) sjcarbon: bye

(09:34:44 AM) sidd left the room (Leaving).

(09:34:48 AM) sjcarbon: bye, rama!