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11/01/2007 17:02:24 PM from John Day-Richter to All Attendees:
Hi, all.
11/01/2007 17:02:29 PM from Alexander Diehl to All Attendees:
his
11/01/2007 17:02:31 PM from Alexander Diehl to All Attendees:
hi
11/01/2007 17:02:35 PM from midori to All Participants:
Hi
11/01/2007 17:02:36 PM from harold to All Participants:
avast
11/01/2007 17:02:44 PM from Alexander Diehl to All Attendees:
(bad typist at work)
11/01/2007 17:02:48 PM from John Day-Richter to All Attendees:
Again, sorry for the reschedule, and my recent silence.
11/01/2007 17:03:02 PM from midori to All Participants:
Alex- you have to change to "all participants"
11/01/2007 17:03:13 PM from Alexander Diehl to All Participants:
hi again
11/01/2007 17:03:15 PM from midori to All Participants:
We missed ya!
11/01/2007 17:03:17 PM from harold to All Participants:
they just started putting up the snow stakes at the lab
11/01/2007 17:03:27 PM from harold to All Participants:
8-(
11/01/2007 17:03:28 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
But hopefully you'll like the new rendering system. Once this is
done, I really will feel that OBO-Edit 2 is approaching feature
completeness
11/01/2007 17:03:33 PM from midori to All Participants:
Oh yeah, they have winter where you live.
11/01/2007 17:03:39 PM from Alexander Diehl to All Participants:
I was X-country skiing on Sunday.
11/01/2007 17:03:51 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
Don't they have winter in Cambridge? Or is it just a dreary
year-round drizzle?
11/01/2007 17:03:56 PM from harold to All Participants:
yes, but that's in *ICE" land
11/01/2007 17:04:10 PM from midori to All Participants:
We have summer here! It lasted almost a week this year!!!
11/01/2007 17:04:34 PM from harold to All Participants:
so how many here are going to the Hawai meeting??
11/01/2007 17:04:38 PM from midori to All Participants:
(but they haven't had a decent winter worthy the name since I've lived
here)
11/01/2007 17:04:38 PM from Alexander Diehl to All Participants:
In Iceland, summer is just defined a bit differently.
11/01/2007 17:05:59 PM from Alexander Diehl to All Participants:
What does the new rendering system do?
11/01/2007 17:06:33 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
I
11/01/2007 17:06:44 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
I'll demo in a moment, I'm struggling with webex...
11/01/2007 17:06:52 PM from Alexander Diehl to All Participants:
okay
11/01/2007 17:06:57 PM from melissaH to All Participants:
yeah I had a really hard time getting on
11/01/2007 17:08:08 PM from harold to All Participants:
I just got a "Yugma" account; it works in conjunction with skype; sort
of a Freeware WebEX. Has anyone tried it?
11/01/2007 17:08:26 PM from midori to All Participants:
only just heard of it now
11/01/2007 17:08:35 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
That sounds nice though - how's the application sharing?
11/01/2007 17:09:58 PM from harold to All Participants:
haven't tried everything yet; need another person to try it. I was
thinking of getting my distance learning students to use it
11/01/2007 17:10:23 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
Good plan. I'm ready to demo, now, by the way.
11/01/2007 17:10:35 PM from harold to All Participants:
go for it
11/01/2007 17:10:48 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
Since there's no way for me to chat while demoing, let me tell
you what we'll be looking at...
11/01/2007 17:11:05 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
Recall that back in the day, rendering was done via the regular
search interface.
11/01/2007 17:11:10 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
No longer.
11/01/2007 17:11:27 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
Rendering is now done in the configuration panel of the ontology
editor panel or the graph editor panel.
11/01/2007 17:12:17 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
(back from crashland)
11/01/2007 17:12:41 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
Anyway, renderers allow you to associate special coloring or
font options with filters.
11/01/2007 17:13:05 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
In the demo, I've got a filter on OBO-Edit that colors all terms
with the word "cell" in them purple.
11/01/2007 17:13:26 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
But this new rendering system can do much more than the old one.
But we'll look at the basics first.
11/01/2007 17:13:49 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
I'll browse around a little, and then add a new filter that
colors terms with the word "component" yellow.
11/01/2007 17:13:57 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
To the demo...
11/01/2007 17:16:05 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
Notice that renderers can now be "blended"
11/01/2007 17:16:05 PM from midori to All Participants:
madness! (but in a good way)
11/01/2007 17:16:25 PM from melissaH to All Participants:
I love it!
11/01/2007 17:16:41 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
Colors will blend together if more than one renderer matches,
and if you increase font size for matching terms, terms that match
multiple renderers will get REALLY big.
11/01/2007 17:16:49 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
But that's not the cool part!
11/01/2007 17:17:25 PM from Alexander Diehl to All Participants:
Is that "script-like" stuff above the filter dialog generated
automatically?
11/01/2007 17:17:43 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
What stuff?
11/01/2007 17:18:05 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
The description of the renderer you mean? That's the way a
filter appears in the filter list when you aren't editing it.
11/01/2007 17:18:15 PM from Alexander Diehl to All Participants:
I see.
11/01/2007 17:18:17 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
Double click one of those descriptions to edit it.
11/01/2007 17:18:24 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
The cool part is that most of these renderers are implemented
using HTML behind the scenes. You now have access to that HTML code.
11/01/2007 17:18:35 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
Allow me to blow your minds. Demo style.
11/01/2007 17:19:42 PM from midori to All Participants:
oh my.
11/01/2007 17:20:06 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
You can also do it WITHIN a renderer.
11/01/2007 17:20:21 PM from melissaH to All Participants:
wow, could this be used to display synonyms too?
11/01/2007 17:20:48 PM from melissaH to All Participants:
or better yet, change the primary term display to a synonym category?
11/01/2007 17:21:57 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
That is in theory possible! I'd have to add a new search
criterion (because those $var$ expressions are actually search criterion
ids) but yes.
11/01/2007 17:22:09 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
There's a special syntax you need to use to display lists of
things, but it works.
11/01/2007 17:22:42 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
It also works in the graph editor...
11/01/2007 17:24:36 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
So you can design your wedding invitations with it now.
11/01/2007 17:24:41 PM from Alexander Diehl to All Participants:
Yes this is great.
11/01/2007 17:25:00 PM from harold to All Participants:
beware of font invasions
11/01/2007 17:25:08 PM from Alexander Diehl to All Participants:
Especially if we can export the images in the graph editor.
11/01/2007 17:25:13 PM from midori to All Participants:
Can we (easily) share the bits that specify a particular renderer?
11/01/2007 17:25:26 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
Hmm...
11/01/2007 17:25:35 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
Not as yet. But I can add that if you'd like.
11/01/2007 17:26:06 PM from midori to All Participants:
I wouldn't delay release for it, but it might be a nice thing to
consider for 2.001 ..
11/01/2007 17:26:23 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
It's really easy to do. I can add it in about half an hour I
think.
11/01/2007 17:26:30 PM from Alexander Diehl to All Participants:
or at least before 2.008
11/01/2007 17:26:39 PM from midori to All Participants:
Oh, well, in that case, why not?
11/01/2007 17:26:48 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
There are also global renderers that apply to all term editor
panels and ontology editor panels.
11/01/2007 17:27:32 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
And although you can't specify renderers, you CAN specify the
basic html for the graph dag viewer.
11/01/2007 17:28:14 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
One other thing you might be interested in is this...
11/01/2007 17:30:01 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
If you are willing to do a little HTML table coding, you can get
some really cool results. I used something similar at biocurators to
show a version of the zfin anatomy with pictures of each anatomical part
next to the terms in the graph editor.
11/01/2007 17:30:35 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
(Although that requires a little extra Java code to traverse the
ontology graph)
11/01/2007 17:30:39 PM from melissaH to All Participants:
(yes very helpful!!)
11/01/2007 17:30:53 PM from midori to All Participants:
I'm boggling (but in a good way)
11/01/2007 17:31:04 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
One last new addition is the quick filtering menu.
11/01/2007 17:31:10 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
demoing...
11/01/2007 17:32:29 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
It's like a more functional, MUCH faster version of the flower
button.
11/01/2007 17:32:39 PM from Alexander Diehl to All Participants:
I think this is all great but it will obviously have a bit of a
learning curve.
11/01/2007 17:33:07 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
Did anyone try out the image plugin?
11/01/2007 17:33:25 PM from melissaH to All Participants:
no not yet, sorry.
11/01/2007 17:33:29 PM from Alexander Diehl to All Participants:
I wanted to but didn't know how to plug it in.
11/01/2007 17:33:40 PM from Alexander Diehl to All Participants:
(yes I'm a little slow)
11/01/2007 17:33:58 PM from melissaH to All Participants:
(common to ontology editors....)
11/01/2007 17:34:12 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
Ah. You drop it into your .oboedit/extensions directory, or the
extensions/ directory of your OBO-Edit installation (depending on
whether you want to install it for just yourself or all OBO-Edit users
on that machine.
11/01/2007 17:34:12 PM from midori to All Participants:
I know far too little about it ... and I haven't spent as much time
testing anything as I wanted to this week ...
11/01/2007 17:34:22 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
I'll demo it now. (allow me a moment to install it)
11/01/2007 17:36:58 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
Alas, it seems to not be compatible with my in-progress build.
11/01/2007 17:37:39 PM from midori to All Participants:
:(
11/01/2007 17:37:43 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
It's well worth trying out though. You get little camera icons
on every panel that let you take a scalable EPS screenshot of that
panel.
11/01/2007 17:38:13 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
And a new right-click menu option in the graph editor that lets
you save the whole graph as a scalable eps file.
11/01/2007 17:38:47 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
Oh, one last thing to demo -
11/01/2007 17:40:28 PM from midori to All Participants:
where does that message end up?
11/01/2007 17:40:35 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
Right in that panel.
11/01/2007 17:40:51 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
It's mostly for demos, if you want to show acknowledgements or
have a list of what you're demoing on screen.
11/01/2007 17:40:53 PM from Alexander Diehl to All Participants:
what is the message for?
11/01/2007 17:40:58 PM from Alexander Diehl to All Participants:
I see
11/01/2007 17:41:25 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
Or you can use an <img> tag to "brand" OBO-Edit...
11/01/2007 17:42:16 PM from Alexander Diehl to All Participants:
Is that the brand you prefer now?
11/01/2007 17:42:25 PM from harold to All Participants:
grrrr
11/01/2007 17:42:33 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
I'm going to buy up the GO as soon as I get to Google. Every
piece of software will bear our logo! Ha ha ha ha ha!
11/01/2007 17:42:42 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
Sorry.
11/01/2007 17:42:48 PM from midori to All Participants:
couldn't even wait 'til he started working there <sigh>
11/01/2007 17:42:48 PM from harold to All Participants:
OboEdit will be available with Picassa
11/01/2007 17:42:55 PM from Alexander Diehl to All Participants:
Just remember to hire the curators as part of the deal.
11/01/2007 17:43:01 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
Actually, that's just the first image URL I could find.
11/01/2007 17:43:06 PM from Alexander Diehl to All Participants:
(at Google-style salaries)
11/01/2007 17:43:07 PM from melissaH to All Participants:
go figure
11/01/2007 17:44:21 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
Ah... open source-y
11/01/2007 17:44:29 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
Okay, only 15 minutes left.
11/01/2007 17:44:54 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
Let's talk about rescheduling office hours to jibe with my
horrible new schedule, and then do deadly bug roundup.
11/01/2007 17:44:57 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
Is that okay?
11/01/2007 17:45:03 PM from midori to All Participants:
yup
11/01/2007 17:45:19 PM from melissaH to All Participants:
sure
11/01/2007 17:45:38 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
What works for you, Midori? The U.S. folks can probably handle
afternoon office hours without too much hassle.
11/01/2007 17:45:50 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
Although anyone else can chime in with suggestions, if you'd
like.
11/01/2007 17:46:00 PM from midori to All Participants:
so you now work 8pm-5am UK time (barring the odd week when clocks don't
change on the same day)
11/01/2007 17:46:16 PM from Alexander Diehl to All Participants:
You could do late night hours for you and early hours for UK.
11/01/2007 17:46:19 PM from melissaH to All Participants:
ugghh!
11/01/2007 17:46:31 PM from melissaH to All Participants:
seems cruel
11/01/2007 17:46:45 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
Well, that's UK time. From my point of view it's 1-9
11/01/2007 17:46:59 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
Can you do 8pm, Midori?
11/01/2007 17:47:10 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
Or would later be better? A before bed midnight chat?
11/01/2007 17:47:15 PM from melissaH to All Participants:
cruel for midori at any time, not you!
11/01/2007 17:47:15 PM from midori to All Participants:
oh, so 4 am (your email said 1-10 pm)
11/01/2007 17:47:46 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
(in practice it's actually 1-midnight, really, but I'm
guaranteed in until 9)
11/01/2007 17:47:59 PM from melissaH to All Participants:
and our daylight savings is about to change
11/01/2007 17:48:01 PM from midori to All Participants:
obviously, the start of John's new day is less bad than the end for us
...
11/01/2007 17:48:33 PM from midori to All Participants:
the times I gave are post-change ... they're based on the time diff that
prevails most of the year.
11/01/2007 17:48:33 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
Any objection to moving office hours to 1pm mountain time?
11/01/2007 17:48:58 PM from midori to All Participants:
I can't do Monday evenings, so would have to change the day-of-the-week.
11/01/2007 17:49:16 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
That's fine. What day would you like?
11/01/2007 17:49:30 PM from midori to All Participants:
Weds or Thurs would be fine, and Tuesdays not too bad (would miss one a
month).
11/01/2007 17:49:48 PM from midori to All Participants:
(please not friday)
11/01/2007 17:49:50 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
Let's do Tuesdays & Thursdays at 1pm then.
11/01/2007 17:50:12 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
Does noon work for you westcoasters?
11/01/2007 17:50:13 PM from midori to All Participants:
are these meetings changing to 1 pm mountain time too?
11/01/2007 17:50:28 PM from melissaH to All Participants:
works fine for me
11/01/2007 17:50:32 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
No, we can leave these as they are. I sometimes have to deal
with a screamy baby at the end, but you can't hear him.
11/01/2007 17:50:54 PM from midori to All Participants:
ok
11/01/2007 17:50:59 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
Cool. I'll change the webex times.
11/01/2007 17:51:15 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
10 minutes left. What are the killer bugs that are stopping you
from testing?
11/01/2007 17:51:23 PM from midori to All Participants:
Well ...
11/01/2007 17:51:26 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
(Not to say that you aren't testing. I mean hypothetically)
11/01/2007 17:51:44 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
(If you weren't testing, what would be stopping you because it
sucks so badly)
11/01/2007 17:51:54 PM from midori to All Participants:
I've got one of my "Midori's patented weird hard-to-describe oddities"
...
11/01/2007 17:52:01 PM from Alexander Diehl to All Participants:
I've been trying to get the image capture to work while we've
been here but nothing happens.
11/01/2007 17:52:22 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
What do you mean? You don't see the icons?
11/01/2007 17:52:40 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
(Midori - "Midori's patented weird hard-to-describe oddities"
would be an awesome autobiography title for you)
11/01/2007 17:52:47 PM from Alexander Diehl to All Participants:
I don't see the icons
11/01/2007 17:52:56 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
What version are you using?
11/01/2007 17:53:00 PM from midori to All Participants:
I've had a few cases with beta16 where editing goes fine for a while,
but then I lose the ability to change selections. Sometimes the whole
app goes unresponsive.
11/01/2007 17:53:05 PM from Alexander Diehl to All Participants:
B16
11/01/2007 17:53:21 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
Okay, I'll look into the plugin troubles before b17 goes out,
Alex.
11/01/2007 17:53:23 PM from midori to All Participants:
I'll keep that in mind if I ever find a good ghostwriter.
11/01/2007 17:53:31 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
Midori - Do you have any useful logs?
11/01/2007 17:53:42 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
(I imagine you've posted them on sourceforge if you do)
11/01/2007 17:53:46 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
(or emailed them)
11/01/2007 17:54:03 PM from Alexander Diehl to All Participants:
thanks
11/01/2007 17:54:19 PM from midori to All Participants:
Erm, I have a log ... no guarantee that it's useful. Haven't put
anything on SF yet because I was hoping to get some idea whether
anything correlates with the bug ... no joy so far.
11/01/2007 17:54:25 PM from midori to All Participants:
I can email the log I have, tho.
11/01/2007 17:54:51 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
Yeah - if the log contains an exception trace, it's definitely
useful. I can almost always do something with an exception trace.
11/01/2007 17:55:12 PM from midori to All Participants:
I did also have one session where nothing went wrong, but I wasn't aware
of doing anything different from the times that bombed.
11/01/2007 17:55:16 PM from midori to All Participants:
log on it sway ....
11/01/2007 17:55:23 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
Did beta16 fix the degrading performance problem?
11/01/2007 17:55:28 PM from midori to All Participants:
..er . on its way.
11/01/2007 17:55:34 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
Associated with multiple searches?
11/01/2007 17:55:54 PM from midori to All Participants:
Don't know, because of the aforementioned Midori's patented etc.
11/01/2007 17:56:03 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
Harold?
11/01/2007 17:56:24 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
He must have run away. Alas.
11/01/2007 17:56:39 PM from harold to All Participants:
so far nothing really bad, but I haven't really set it through a lot of
queries yet
11/01/2007 17:56:59 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
That's good news, then, because my understanding was that it
fell apart after just a few queries before.
11/01/2007 17:57:00 PM from harold to All Participants:
I'll have to do that when I can find time to actually annotate
11/01/2007 17:57:24 PM from harold to All Participants:
yes, before it got really bad after about three or four
11/01/2007 17:57:25 PM from Alexander Diehl to All Participants:
So is Java on Leopard going to be a problem for OBO-Edit?
11/01/2007 17:57:39 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
No way to know.
11/01/2007 17:57:45 PM from Alexander Diehl to All Participants:
(there was a SF item)
11/01/2007 17:57:58 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
Oh, crap.
11/01/2007 17:58:05 PM from Alexander Diehl to All Participants:
(and I've seen complaints elsewhere in general)
11/01/2007 17:58:23 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
I don't have Leopard, of course. If there is a problem, it'll
probably be related to Leopard's new screen management.
11/01/2007 17:58:24 PM from Alexander Diehl to All Participants:
(about Java 5 on OS X 10.5)
11/01/2007 17:58:35 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
Has anyone experienced these problems firsthand?
11/01/2007 17:58:46 PM from midori to All Participants:
don't have leopard ...
11/01/2007 17:58:56 PM from Alexander Diehl to All Participants:
No, we won't be upgraded for a long time at TJL.
11/01/2007 17:59:05 PM from Alexander Diehl to All Participants:
But it is important to know.
11/01/2007 17:59:08 PM from midori to All Participants:
(tiger on the computers, and shelter moggy on the couch)
11/01/2007 17:59:42 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
I'll see if I can talk Suzi into buying Leopard for my last
month at Berkeley. If not, there are ways of obtaining "demo"
software...
11/01/2007 17:59:48 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
I'll look into this.
11/01/2007 18:00:13 PM from Alexander Diehl to All Participants:
good
11/01/2007 18:00:17 PM from harold to All Participants:
most likley will will have leopard when the next version of osx11 comes
out
11/01/2007 18:01:04 PM from harold to All Participants:
running out of cats; what's left: cougar; oscelot; kitty; ... OSX
Garfield
11/01/2007 18:01:07 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
Jax's authoritarian IT is a perfect working model of why the
Soviet Union didn't work, you realize.
11/01/2007 18:01:14 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
Anyway, time's up.
11/01/2007 18:01:18 PM from midori to All Participants:
other administrivia: I'll be away for the next meeting, and the office
hours for a couple weeks
11/01/2007 18:01:37 PM from midori to All Participants:
back nov. 19th ...
11/01/2007 18:01:37 PM from Alexander Diehl to All Participants:
Are we doing weekly meetings now?
11/01/2007 18:01:43 PM from melissaH to All Participants:
me too, next meeting
11/01/2007 18:01:55 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
Yes to weekly meetings says I.
11/01/2007 18:02:02 PM from Alexander Diehl to All Participants:
okay
11/01/2007 18:02:03 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
I missed the last one only because of biocurators.
11/01/2007 18:02:10 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
Melissa and I were too busy hot-tubbing.
11/01/2007 18:02:16 PM from midori to All Participants:
fine with me ... tho that means I'll miss the next 2
11/01/2007 18:02:16 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
But, you know, platonically.
11/01/2007 18:02:33 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
Midori - wanna do office hours this afternoon as per the new
schedule?
11/01/2007 18:02:35 PM from Alexander Diehl to All Participants:
At 10:30 or 11 mountain time?
11/01/2007 18:02:44 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
10:30 should be fine.
11/01/2007 18:03:34 PM from melissaH to All Participants:
you'll probably not get to go to google meetings in the hot tub
11/01/2007 18:03:40 PM from midori to All Participants:
John - you mean office hrs in one hour or two?
11/01/2007 18:03:46 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
Yes, Midori.
11/01/2007 18:03:57 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
And Melissa, I'll do my best to change the work culture.
11/01/2007 18:04:08 PM from midori to All Participants:
(damn and blast congress for changing DST ... we used to go back on the
same day!)
11/01/2007 18:04:20 PM from Alexander Diehl to All Participants:
But at least John will be able to take his dog to work with him.
11/01/2007 18:04:37 PM from melissaH to All Participants:
john can you send out a weekly reminder for all our meeting times so us
space cadets can get our act together?
11/01/2007 18:04:51 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
I have a 40 minute bus ride to google, so I won't be bringing
Remy to google regularly.
11/01/2007 18:04:56 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
Melissa, yes I will.
11/01/2007 18:05:12 PM from Jen Deegan to All Participants:
Sorry I arrived so late. I was both stuck on the motorway and confused
about the time.
11/01/2007 18:05:29 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
Maybe Jen would like office hours in an hour too...
11/01/2007 18:05:33 PM from midori to All Participants:
(see above re US Congress)
11/01/2007 18:06:08 PM from Jen Deegan to All Participants:
Jen would enjoy sleep but if there are tips on code revision going....
11/01/2007 18:06:18 PM from Jen Deegan to All Participants:
:-)
11/01/2007 18:06:30 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
There's always time for that, but we can do that over skype, I
think.
11/01/2007 18:06:36 PM from Jen Deegan to All Participants:
true
11/01/2007 18:06:44 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
So maybe let's skip office hours this afternoon.
11/01/2007 18:06:49 PM from Jen Deegan to All Participants:
that might be best
11/01/2007 18:06:59 PM from Jen Deegan to All Participants:
I've been on the motorway for 1.5 hours
11/01/2007 18:07:06 PM from Jen Deegan to All Participants:
Thanks.
11/01/2007 18:07:11 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
Jen, skype me when you want to talk about code stuff. I'll be
back in the office in an hour.
11/01/2007 18:07:18 PM from Jen Deegan to All Participants:
funky! Thanks.
11/01/2007 18:07:19 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
I must now depart to take Logan to baby school.
11/01/2007 18:07:23 PM from Jen Deegan to All Participants:
have fun!
11/01/2007 18:07:27 PM from midori to All Participants:
ok ... I'll put in a bug report if I figure out what gives with my
latest oddity.
11/01/2007 18:07:36 PM from Alexander Diehl to All Participants:
bye.
11/01/2007 18:07:37 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
Farewell, all. Can a non-crashed person send out notes?
11/01/2007 18:07:41 PM from midori to All Participants:
ok
11/01/2007 18:07:46 PM from John Day-Richter to All Participants:
Bye.
11/01/2007 18:07:48 PM from melissaH to All Participants:
bye everyone
11/01/2007 18:07:49 PM from harold to All Participants:
okydoky; good bye
11/01/2007 18:07:53 PM from midori to All Participants:
bye