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In contrast, using protein B in column 16 (annotation extension) and the relationship has_participant/has_input/has_ouput is equivalent to postcomposition of a new GO term for binding specifically to protein B. i.e. the annotation '''Protein A GO:0016301 kinase activity IDA column 16 (annotation extension) has_input Protein B''' makes the statement that Protein A has the molecular function "kinase activity" and that a Protein B is a substrate of this activity.   
In contrast, using protein B in column 16 (annotation extension) and the relationship has_participant/has_input/has_ouput is equivalent to postcomposition of a new GO term for binding specifically to protein B. i.e. the annotation '''Protein A GO:0016301 kinase activity IDA column 16 (annotation extension) has_input Protein B''' makes the statement that Protein A has the molecular function "kinase activity" and that a Protein B is a substrate of this activity.   


<font color="red">I think we should stick with trying to agree on the wording of statements above.red</font>  The reminder of the text makes sense but this guideline was proposed in [http://wiki.geneontology.org/index.php/2010_GO_camp_binding_documentation_issues#Discussion_30-04-2010 April] and was met with considerable disagreement.  
<font color="red">I think we should stick with trying to agree on the wording of statements above.</font>  The reminder of the text makes sense but this guideline was proposed in [http://wiki.geneontology.org/index.php/2010_GO_camp_binding_documentation_issues#Discussion_30-04-2010 April] and was met with considerable disagreement.  


<font color="purple">See the section '''Cross species experiments''' Emily suggested that when cross species experiments are annotated and the direct binding protein is added to column 8 (with column) then the orthologous gene (invivo participant) in the same species as the annotated protein should be added to column 16. eg human protein A; GO:0005515 protein binding; [with column] mouse protein B; [column 16] human ortholog protein B. purple</font>
<font color="purple">'''Cross species experiments''' Emily suggested that when cross species experiments are annotated and the direct binding protein is added to column 8 (with column) then the orthologous gene (invivo participant) in the same species as the annotated protein should be added to column 16. eg human protein A; GO:0005515 protein binding; [with column] mouse protein B; [column 16] human ortholog protein B.</font>


This distinction allows us to make annotations based on experiments where the evidence for the function of Protein A binding Protein B in species X is based on binding of protein B from species Y.  For[http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC87051/ example], Drosophila chromatin was used to show that human p300 binds specifically to histone H3.  This could be annotated to GO:0031493:nucleosomal histone binding using the Drosophila H3 in the with column.  A more specific functional annotation could be made using H3 (not Drosophila) in column 16.   
This distinction allows us to make annotations based on experiments where the evidence for the function of Protein A binding Protein B in species X is based on binding of protein B from species Y.  For[http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC87051/ example], Drosophila chromatin was used to show that human p300 binds specifically to histone H3.  This could be annotated to GO:0031493:nucleosomal histone binding using the Drosophila H3 in the with column.  A more specific functional annotation could be made using H3 (not Drosophila) in column 16.   

Revision as of 05:54, 8 July 2010

Siegele 00:30, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

As many terms in the Molecular Function ontology implicitly or explicitly imply the binding of a chemical or protein, it is unnecessary to co-annotate a gene product to a term from the binding node of GO to describe the binding of substrates or products that are already adequately captured in the definition of the Molecular Function term. For instance, an enzyme MUST bind all of the substrates and products of the reaction it catalyzes. Similarly, a transporter MUST bind the molecules it transports. Therefore, as binding is implied, curators should avoid making redundant annotations.

There will be some cases, however, where it is appropriate to annotate a binding relationship. For example, published experiments may show that a gene product binds a non-hydrolyzable ATP analog, without demonstrating that it has ATPase activity. In such a case, it would be appropriate to annotate to GO:0005524 ATP binding using an IDA evidence code.

The GO is committed to ‘annotating to the experiment’. Therefore the curator should try to capture the specifics as much as feasible: use the binding term if the experiment shows binding, but not catalysis/transport; don’t use the binding term if the experiment does show catalysis/transport.

The curator may come across Molecular Function terms where the definition doesn't adequately describe the specific substrate/target being bound, and where the request of a more specific Molecular Function would be considered inappropriate. In such cases, the identity of the substrate/target being bound can be captured in the [‘with’ column (8)] or annotation extension column (16) using identifiers from other ontologies or databases. Small molecule substrate/targets should be identified with accessions from ChEBI, and protein substrate/targets should be identified with accessions from UniProtKB (others?). Enzyme or transporter substrate/target information should be entered in [column 8 or] column 16 in the form CheBI:xxxx or UniProtKB:xxxxx. Multiple entries should be separated by pipes (add example). Keep in mind that [column 8 or] the annotation extension column (16) should be used only for direct interactions and only when the binding relationship is not already included in the GO term and/or definition.

Annotations to protein binding terms should be maximally informative. Child terms that describe a particular class of protein binding (e.g. GO:0030971 ‘receptor tyrosine kinase binding’) should be used in preference to the parent term 'protein binding'; GO:0005515. Where possible the precise identity of the interacting protein should be captured in [the ‘with’ field or] the annotation extension column (16) of an annotation. The IPI evidence code should be used for annotation of ‘’’all’’’ protein-protein interactions rather than IDA.

Future ontology development efforts should be relied upon to improve the searching capability of any user who is specifically interested in gene products carrying out a certain type of substrate/product binding. Ongoing relevant ontology development of 'has_part' relationships will provide links to implied substrate binding (Chris and Jane are developing 'has_part' relationships to implying substrate binding). [something missing here] existing GO to follow this new format eg Transcription factor activity has_part DNA binding. Curators can request new 'has_part' relationships (and terms) if these do not exist.


  • Not sure where the following statement belongs:

Curators should use their judgment to decide whether the interaction is physiologically relevant and capture information relevant to the in vivo situation, not artificial substrates.

  • Not sure whether I captured what was meant by the following statement:

The annotation extension (column 16) should only be used for direct (target of catalytic activity (using relationship ontology).

Usage of the With/From Column for IPI

We strongly recommend making an entry in the with/from column when using this evidence code to include an identifier for the other protein or other macromolecule or other chemical involved in the interaction. When multiple entries are placed in the with/from field, they are separated by pipes. Consider using IDA when no identifier can be entered in the with/from column.

Ruth edits 1 July 2010

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As many terms in the Molecular Function ontology implicitly or explicitly imply the binding of a chemical or protein, it is unnecessary to co-annotate a gene product to a term from the binding node of GO to describe the binding of substrates or products that are already adequately captured in the definition of the Molecular Function term. For instance, an enzyme MUST bind all of the substrates and products of the reaction it catalyzes. Similarly, a transporter MUST bind the molecules it transports. Therefore, as binding is implied, curators should avoid making redundant annotations.

There will be some cases, however, where it is appropriate to annotate a binding relationship. For example, published experiments may show that a gene product binds a non-hydrolyzable ATP analog, without demonstrating that it has ATPase activity. In such a case, it would be appropriate to annotate to GO:0005524 ATP binding using an IDA evidence code.

The GO is committed to ‘annotating to the experiment’. Therefore the curator should try to capture the specifics as much as feasible: use the binding term if the experiment shows binding, but not catalysis/transport; don’t use the binding term if the experiment does show catalysis/transport. (added this orphan sentence:)Curators should use their judgment to decide whether the interaction is physiologically relevant and capture information relevant to the in vivo situation, not artificial substrates.

The curator may come across Molecular Function terms where the definition doesn't adequately describe the specific substrate/target being bound, and where the request of a more specific Molecular Function would be considered inappropriate. In such cases, the identity of the substrate/target being bound can be captured in the ‘with’ column (8) or annotation extension column (16) using identifiers from other ontologies or databases. Small molecule substrate/targets should be identified with accessions from ChEBI, and protein substrate/targets can be identified with accessions from UniProtKB (others?). (deleted sentence) Multiple entries should be separated by pipes (add example). (deleted keep in mind) The 'with column (8) or the annotation extension column (16) should be used only for direct interactions and only when the binding relationship is not already included in the GO term and/or definition. See column16 documentation for relationship types to use when adding IDs in the annotation extension column (16).

Annotations to protein binding terms should be maximally informative. Child terms that describe a particular class of protein binding (e.g. GO:0030971 receptor tyrosine kinase binding) should be used in preference to the parent term GO:0005515 protein binding. Where possible the precise identity of the interacting protein should be captured in the ‘with’ column (8) or the annotation extension column (16) of an annotation. The IPI evidence code should be used in preference to IDA for annotation of all protein-protein interactions.

Future ontology development efforts should be relied upon to improve the searching capability of any user who is specifically interested in gene products carrying out a certain type of substrate/product binding. Ongoing relevant ontology development of 'has_part' relationships will provide links to implied substrate binding (Chris and Jane are developing 'has_part' relationships to implying substrate binding). The existing GO will follow this new format e.g. Transcription factor activity will have a 'has_part' relationship to DNA binding rather than an 'is_a' relationship. Curators can request new 'has_part' relationships (and terms) if these do not exist.

Other comments

Pascale: "The GO is committed to ‘annotating to the experiment’." I just worry that this misleads curators into doing 'text mining' rather than interpreting experiments.

One example that comes to mind (which is unrelated to protein binding) is the mouse gene Hnf1a (MGI:98504), a homeobox protein annotated to 'insulin secretion' based on the observation that a mouse lacking that gene has impaired insulin secretion following certain stimulation (PMID: 9733737). In this case, I agree that the experiment was annotated; however the authors seems to suggest a role in beta-cell glycolytic signaling rather than in insulin secretion. I am not sure what would be an experiment that directly tests signaling.

Serenella: it is worthwhile to be more precise: For instance, a catalytic subunit of an enzyme MUST bind all of the substrates and products of the reaction it catalyzes. instead of For instance, an enzyme MUST bind all of the substrates and products of the reaction it catalyzes.?

Ruth: this may be particularly relevant when annotating transporters, which is an issue Emily raised previously.

Jim 2010-07-07

I promised I'd write this and then forgot... here's a draft of what I was trying to say during the call:

Column 8 (with/from) and column 16 (annotation extension) are both used to identify the binding partner of a gene product being annotated. To understand when to use column 8, column 16, or both, it is important to remember that column 8 modifies the evidence used to infer the function, while column 16 modifies the GO term used in column 5 (GO_ID). Thus,

Protein A GO:0005515 protein binding IPI with Protein B

only says that Protein A has the molecular function of "Interacting selectively and non-covalently with any protein or protein complex...". The function being annotated is not selective binding of protein B; binding protein B is evidence that Protein A binds some other protein or complex selectively. By contrast, using protein B in column (question: what relationship?) is equivalent to postcomposition of a new GO term for binding specifically to protein B.

This distinction allows us to make annotations based on experiments where the evidence for the function of Protein A binding Protein B in species X is based on binding of protein B from species Y. Forexample, Drosophila chromatin was used to show that human p300 binds specifically to histone H3. This could be annotated to GO:0031493:nucleosomal histone binding using the Drosophila H3 in the with column. A more specific functional annotation could be made using H3 (not Drosophila) in column 16.

This raises the question of propagation by ISS using column 16. In Geneva, Judy suggested that column 16 should be used for classes/families of proteins rather than the forms from specific species. In the example above, column 16 would have an identifier for a generic histone H3 rather than a human or Drosophila H3.

Ruth 2010-07-08 possible modifications to Jim's statements

Column 8 (with) and column 16 (annotation extension) are both used to identify the binding partner of a gene product being annotated. To understand when to use column 8, column 16, or both, it is important to remember that column 8 modifies the evidence used to infer the function, while column 16 modifies the GO term used in column 5 (GO_ID). Furthermore, interacting molecules can only be included in Column 8 (with) when using the IPI evidence code.

Thus, the annotation: Protein A GO:0005515 protein binding IPI Column 8 (with) Protein B makes the statement that Protein A has the molecular function of "Interacting selectively and non-covalently with any protein or protein complex...". The function being annotated is not selective binding of protein B (for example protein B may not be an in vivo substrate); binding protein B is evidence that Protein A binds some other protein or complex selectively.

In contrast, using protein B in column 16 (annotation extension) and the relationship has_participant/has_input/has_ouput is equivalent to postcomposition of a new GO term for binding specifically to protein B. i.e. the annotation Protein A GO:0016301 kinase activity IDA column 16 (annotation extension) has_input Protein B makes the statement that Protein A has the molecular function "kinase activity" and that a Protein B is a substrate of this activity.

I think we should stick with trying to agree on the wording of statements above. The reminder of the text makes sense but this guideline was proposed in April and was met with considerable disagreement.

Cross species experiments Emily suggested that when cross species experiments are annotated and the direct binding protein is added to column 8 (with column) then the orthologous gene (invivo participant) in the same species as the annotated protein should be added to column 16. eg human protein A; GO:0005515 protein binding; [with column] mouse protein B; [column 16] human ortholog protein B.

This distinction allows us to make annotations based on experiments where the evidence for the function of Protein A binding Protein B in species X is based on binding of protein B from species Y. Forexample, Drosophila chromatin was used to show that human p300 binds specifically to histone H3. This could be annotated to GO:0031493:nucleosomal histone binding using the Drosophila H3 in the with column. A more specific functional annotation could be made using H3 (not Drosophila) in column 16.

This raises the question of propagation by ISS using column 16. In Geneva, Judy suggested that column 16 should be used for classes/families of proteins rather than the forms from specific species. In the example above, column 16 would have an identifier for a generic histone H3 rather than a human or Drosophila H3.

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