WPWG-20091123-transcript
- Tuesday November 24 2009, 08:29 -
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Ben: hi there!
sjcarbon: mornin!
Ben: I am chatting from my phone, so my net access is a little limited
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sjcarbon: no problem.
sjcarbon: let's just give it until 8:35, then we can start.
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rama: Hello,
rama: Good morning
sjcarbon: mornin!
sjcarbon: rama - we're just giving it another three minutes.
sjcarbon: two now.
rama: Sure
rama: we are waiting for?
rama: Amelia?
rama: Val, pascale may be?
Ben: I should tell chris that I use his code in go-prepare-release.pl to torture job candidates
- 08:34 -
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cjm: good morning.
gwg: Hello, sorry I'm late!
cjm: I am simultaneously on the OE call
sjcarbon: no problem.
gwg: whoa, multitask-o-rama!
j-lo: please send them my apologies, not going to try doing both!
sjcarbon: let's get rockin!
rama: Seth- if i need a new feature on AmiGO, should i put it on SF or the Wiki?
sjcarbon: SF
sjcarbon: definitely SF.
rama: okay. thanks.
sjcarbon: there is always the possibility that things on the wiki might go undiscovered
sjcarbon: first off, nice to meet you Kalpana!
rama: hmm
rama: she went to get water i think
j-lo: heh!
sjcarbon: moving on then...
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sjcarbon: I wanted to see if anybody here still needed/wanted google accounts to view the analytics data.
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cjm: Do I have one?
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sjcarbon: i also wanted to ask ben if there was any way for us to view the main GO data.
j-lo: it's very interesting
rama: I would like one. What do I have to do? (apologies if you sent instructions and I overlooked)
sjcarbon: cjm - yes, you do.
Ben: sorry I got booted
sjcarbon: rama - you need a gmail account first, then send that information to me.
rama: hah. okay
rama: will do
Ben: what do you mean "view the main go data"?
j-lo: seth - do you know why term finder and slimmer don't appear in the stats?
sjcarbon: ben - i noticed that there was google analytics code embedded in the main GO site.
gwg: Mike Cherry is in control of that - I emailed him and got access
sjcarbon: yes, that will be fixed once the latest fixed version of 1.7 goes public.
j-lo: ah - okay
sjcarbon: gwg - cool, thanks.
gwg: does anyone know if the wiki is also on GA?
Ben: oh sure I can ask mike to add your account to view it
sjcarbon: ben - that would be great!
sjcarbon: i'll email you my information after the meeting.
sjcarbon: amelia - the wiki seems to be free of the analytics JS.
Ben: I don't think the wiki is on ga
gwg: no, there doesn't appear to be any sign of it... it would be useful to put it on if poss, to see if people are using the wiki
sjcarbon: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Google_Analytics_Integration
gwg: and to see if people outside the consortium are using the FAQ
gwg: and the AmiGO manual, etc.
j-lo: that would be great
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gwg: Ben, would you be able to ask Mike about getting the wiki on GA?
Ben: Should probably attach to www.geneontology.org GA account
sjcarbon: that would be fabulous.
sjcarbon: i didn't know there was one.
gwg: (so then when we get those GO help queries where they obviously haven't read the FAQ... )
j-lo: seth, do we have an agenda? Can we talk about 1.8?
sjcarbon: yes, the agenda is on the wiki.
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sjcarbon: http://wiki.geneontology.org/index.php/WPWG-20091123
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j-lo: oops - so it is!
Ben: booted again!
sjcarbon: We finally have an easy way of doing unit/regression testing for AmiGO:
sjcarbon: http://amigo.berkeleybop.org/cgi-bin/amigo/page_test?mode=kappa_results
- 08:49 -
rama: not sure how to interpret the results of this unit testing.
cjm: awesome!
j-lo: so this is the automatic testing?
cjm: longer file names may be more informative; e.g. te -> term_enrichment
sjcarbon: In addition to testing pages and responses in general, it can also ready certain formatted information out of the documnt and test it against expectations.
rama: thanks for implementing this testing suite Seth.
rama: very cool
sjcarbon: cjm - there are also comment fields in the test files that i should display as well.
sjcarbon: for anybody interested, the profiles are in SVN:
sjcarbon: geneontology/go-dev/amigo/testing/profiles/amigo
sjcarbon: next up...
cjm: is there a way of getting it to show the TE input page too?
cjm: be useful for context
j-lo: does it use real datasets for testing TE?
sjcarbon: cjm - not really, but if you look at the testing files, all the information is in there.
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sjcarbon: jane - yes it does.
sjcarbon: should be able to do anything a user can.
j-lo: cool
sjcarbon: umm...lemme see...
sjcarbon: i'll do the "official" 1.7 announcement once the newest goweb-dev version goes to production.
sjcarbon: i think we got of of the serious bugs.
Ben: We'll do that today
sjcarbon: cool, thanks!
sjcarbon: also, we've started the wiki for 1.8:
sjcarbon: http://wiki.geneontology.org/index.php/AmiGO_1_8
j-lo: is there any sort of priority listing for the new features?
sjcarbon: not as of yet.
sjcarbon: just trying to see where we are.
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rama: Revisiting the Ref.genome displays should be moved up i feel
j-lo: can I vote for redo of tree view?
rama: yes, I will vote for the tree view also
gwg: moi aussi!
sjcarbon: there will also be the order of difficulty to consider too as we go.
rama: sure
sjcarbon: but it looks like people have tired of the tree.
sjcarbon: to the axe it wil go.
sjcarbon: we can talk more about this at the next AHWG, but hopefully this will give us a place to start.
Ben: having a simple refgenome view might be more important for grant renewal
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santista: hi
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cjm: The current RefG display will become rapidly outdated. We'll want to show more species, show the phylo tree like PAINT, etc.
Ben: I think such a thing will be brought up at refg call
sjcarbon: i'll make sure to start lurking again.
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rama: yes, we (amiGO) have to be more in sync with the ref.genome stuff
j-lo: I have to go in a minute - can we discuss the news stuff quickly?
sjcarbon: sure.
j-lo: I think it's going okay
j-lo: no-one except the news people actually adds stuff
j-lo: but that's alright
sjcarbon: i've had to field a fair number of queries from news editors who were having problems.
j-lo: oh right!
sjcarbon: has everybody had a chance at the rotation yet?
j-lo: GOC people?
sjcarbon: yeah.
j-lo: not yet - we're on to the 3rd
j-lo: we have 112 folowers on twitter!
sjcarbon: okay. i was just wondering if a more formal tutorial might be useful? some people seem to get it immediately, but other people have a little trouble.
rama: who are the news editors- should any of us be on the rotation (SGD folks I mean)
j-lo: eurie - but she's not on the rotation
j-lo: she got exemption
j-lo: maybe - shall I ask?
rama: I can take over that responsibility from our end
j-lo: sure!
rama: J-lo- we can talk off-line about that.
j-lo: yep - sure
rama: one more thing- about answering go_help emails
j-lo: yep
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rama: recently I saw some emails forwarded to the mailing list, not sure who answered them.
rama: Can we have some protocol?
j-lo: it's the responsibility of the person on the gohelp rota tom chase it up
rama: (to the webpresence WG)
rama: I see. okay. then all good
j-lo: but you're right - I think a couple may have slipped past last week
j-lo: I'll ask Jen - she was on last week
rama: in any case, whoever is responding, can you please cc the WPWG mailing list so we all know what the answer is
j-lo: seth - tutorial might be good
sjcarbon: !?
j-lo: rama - yes, definitely
rama: tutorial fo?
j-lo: sorry - replying to you from several minutes ago!
j-lo: "okay. i was just wondering if a more formal tutorial might be useful? some people seem to get it immediately, but other people have a little trouble."
sjcarbon: yes! okay! i was worried that maybe people were having trouble with email...
rama: is this about the news editing stuff
sjcarbon: yeah.
rama: I can use a tutorial
sjcarbon: are you on the news list?
rama: i don't think so
j-lo: sorry - I have to go - lets finish this by email
sjcarbon: okay, see you later.
rama: no worries..i will follow with J-lo on this stuff
rama: btw, I will start a SF on the Tree View thing
sjcarbon: okay, thanks.
rama: J-lo please add your comments to that.
rama: (all for 1.8)
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sjcarbon: (and 1.8 for all)
rama: haha
sjcarbon: i think we covered most of the agenda items. does anybody have anything else?
rama: Seth-Chris-GWG- wondering if you were planning to come down to Stanford in Dec?
sjcarbon: no plans yet, but it sounds good.
rama: If not Dec, early Jan
sjcarbon: we'll work something out.
rama: we will come up with an agenda so that we can make sure time spent is productive etc
gwg: I'd been planning to go to England for xmas, but maybe Stanford would be a better choice!
sjcarbon: no problem, we can probably take care of that on the hub list.
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rama: I don't have anything else to add
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sjcarbon: okay, everybody else good?
rama: bye
rama: happy thanksgiving
sjcarbon: okay, see y'all
sjcarbon: to you too!
Kalpana: bye everyone. Seth, Sorry I missed your greeting, had stepped out briefly.
Ben: bye
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