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== Tracker items to be reviewed by the Working Group==
== Tracker items to be reviewed by the Working Group==


* Edit layout does not work on windows <br>
# Edit layout does not work on windows https://sourceforge.net/tracker2/?func=detail&aid=2657452&group_id=36855&atid=418257
https://sourceforge.net/tracker2/?func=detail&aid=2657452&group_id=36855&atid=418257<br>
#* <font color=blue>proposal to have a way to go back to the default settings for both the edit and verify layouts</font>
 
# Bug from David: When you click on a search result item, it takes a while for the text editor to catch up, or maybe takes a double click. Seems a common problem, though not everyone has seen it. https://sourceforge.net/tracker2/?func=detail&aid=2588958&group_id=36855&atid=418257
*Bug from David: When you click on a search result item, it takes a while for the text editor to catch up, or maybe takes a double click. Seems a common problem, though not everyone has seen it.<br>
#* <font color=blue>The problem is that he gets an empty list with the reasoner on</font>
https://sourceforge.net/tracker2/?func=detail&aid=2588958&group_id=36855&atid=418257
# Bug from David - See https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2637233&group_id=36855&atid=418257
 
#* Rearrangements of tree editor during save, others see this too. Linkpile reasoner thinks there is a disjoint problem, gets confused, and jumps around. A Long log file showing the reasoner going around and around. Amina added some better descriptors to log file to help with this sort of issue.
* Bug from David - See https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2637233&group_id=36855&atid=418257
#* Crashing in b55 when saving with reasoner on, wasn't happening in b54. Maybe we can try incremental reasoning? Checkbox in reasoner manager?
** Rearrangements of tree editor during save, others see this too. Linkpile reasoner thinks there is a disjoint problem, gets confused, and jumps around. A Long log file showing the reasoner going around and around. Amina added some better descriptors to log file to help with this sort of issue.
#* False disjoint relation issue in flyanat, Chris says that incremental reasoning is not working correctly.
** Crashing in b55 when saving with reasoner on, wasn’t happening in b54. Maybe we can try incremental reasoning? Checkbox in reasoner manager?  
#* <font color=blue>The option to turn off incremental reasoning is already in progress. The rest will go on Amina's to do list.</font>
** False disjoint relation issue in flyanat, Chris says that incremental reasoning is not working correctly.  
# Bug from Midori- see https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2642262&group_id=36855&atid=418257  can't delete "general" dbxrefs in the term editor- Amina has fixed this in b56.
 
#* <font color=blue>no need to discuss since already fixed in upcoming beta56</font>
* Bug from Midori- see https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2642262&group_id=36855&atid=418257  can’t delete "general" dbxrefs in the term editor- Amina has fixed this in b56.  


==Discussion items==
==Discussion items==

Revision as of 14:20, 10 March 2009

OBO-Edit Working Group, Tuesday March 10th, 2008 9.30 a.m. PST

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Agenda/Chair: Jen
Minutes: KarenC
Attendees:

Action items carried over

  • Midori
  1. will compose email about OE2 release to be sent out about one week before release, which is March 23rd.
    • not relevant since we're not at this point yet
  • Working Group:
  1. Documentation Jamboree
    • This coming Friday 13th March, everyone please look over the documentation for the section(s) that you tested. Post comments to the wiki.
  • Amina
  1. Option to turn off incremental reasoning
    • in progress
  2. Look into what 'succinct' does and will change documentation on 'succinct' , including what it is called.
    • postponed, Amina will do a demo in a future meeting
  3. GraphViewer should not need the reasoner to show asserted links. Since this is a new feature for OE2, should not hold up the release. Could just label as experimental. DavidOS suggests that 'succinct' be the default because the output with succinct on makes sense while with it off, the result is gibberish.
    • This item is #6 on Amina's to do list. In response to the suggestion that perhaps the Graph Viewer should just be considered experimental, Amina responded that she feels that this component is mostly working well, shouldn't be too hard to fix, and should not be considered experimental. From beta56 onwards, this component will not require the reasoner.
  4. Investigate why uncommitted text edit window shows up without edits having been done.
    • This appears to be due to OBO-Edit's complicated event handling, but should not be too difficult. It is in progress.
  5. Restore load error report before release (from Melissa) https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2513220&group_id=36855&atid=418257
    • This is in progress, #9 on Amina's to do list
  6. (Look into open source java help documentation software. Can be after release. For now, WG members can email docs to Amina and she will integrate into the code.
    • no change in status, can still be done after release

Tracker items to be reviewed by the Working Group

  1. Edit layout does not work on windows https://sourceforge.net/tracker2/?func=detail&aid=2657452&group_id=36855&atid=418257
    • proposal to have a way to go back to the default settings for both the edit and verify layouts
  2. Bug from David: When you click on a search result item, it takes a while for the text editor to catch up, or maybe takes a double click. Seems a common problem, though not everyone has seen it. https://sourceforge.net/tracker2/?func=detail&aid=2588958&group_id=36855&atid=418257
    • The problem is that he gets an empty list with the reasoner on
  3. Bug from David - See https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2637233&group_id=36855&atid=418257
    • Rearrangements of tree editor during save, others see this too. Linkpile reasoner thinks there is a disjoint problem, gets confused, and jumps around. A Long log file showing the reasoner going around and around. Amina added some better descriptors to log file to help with this sort of issue.
    • Crashing in b55 when saving with reasoner on, wasn't happening in b54. Maybe we can try incremental reasoning? Checkbox in reasoner manager?
    • False disjoint relation issue in flyanat, Chris says that incremental reasoning is not working correctly.
    • The option to turn off incremental reasoning is already in progress. The rest will go on Amina's to do list.
  4. Bug from Midori- see https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2642262&group_id=36855&atid=418257 can't delete "general" dbxrefs in the term editor- Amina has fixed this in b56.
    • no need to discuss since already fixed in upcoming beta56

Discussion items

  • b56 release
  • A computer scientist friend of mine called Satnam Singh (Microsoft Research, Cambridge) is possibly interested to collaborate on speeding up incremental reasoning in OBO-Edit. Would you be happy for me to go ahead and explain the problem to him, to see if he is interested to pursue this further? This collaboration might also present an avenue for solving my current funding problem, as the reserch institute has a funding programme specifically to support this kind of collaboration (http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/groups/rpp/). Clearly there would have to be very solid agreements about the work remaining open source, and in the public domain, but I could discuss this aspect with him and report back.
  • Do we want to test Clackpoint VoIP? It means the Mac people need to install Flash 10 so it may be best to wait until this arrives on its own. (Jen)
  • Consider/replaced_by: it turned out to be a hassle to get a 'copy to clipboard' button on a dialog box. How would it be best to present the information for users?(Jen)

  • Where should we store small test ontologies, like the one that I have made for testing obsoletion? Maybe in cvs somewhere? (Jen)

Action Items

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